The College's expert claimed that Dr. Hoffe's statement that "ivermectin was effective in the treatment of Covid" violated ethical standards. Here is my written expert defense testimony.
As a reader of Kory’s writings early in covid, he made a point about the 30,000 foot view of ALL of this ivermectin talk: the directionality tells the story.
When patient responses are thrown up on the board as clouds of dots in sundry trials of varied complexity, rigor, size, etc., ONE thing stood out about ivermectin: it showed DIRECTIONAL improvement. “How much” was a secondary phenomenon.
Think of it this way. CPR probably has a wildly varied outcome depending upon the circumstances of any individual case. Was it performed in a hospital by staff while in surgery, in the field by EMTs, or in the supermarket by some teenaged bystander? Outcomes probably are recorded already by class, and it would stand to reason that the above list declines in positive outcome. However, the mere fact of administration of CPR no doubt is borne out in records that positive outcomes are possible whereas negative outcomes are moot.
In the case of ivermectin, if the needle is consistently moving directionally in the favor of positive outcome, then there is efficacy. Because the safety profile is, uniquely, so benign, ivermectin was blessed with this de-cloaking device that enabled Kory to see and declare this beautiful discovery. By causing no known harm, any needle movement PROVES action, and if action is positive, the treatment has efficacy.
On this basis, standing alone, ivermectin earned its place in the arsenal, and Kory cemented his place in history as a savior of countless lives.
Many thanks to you and Paul. You have saved one life in this family with your protocol, which had to be fought for against 4 critical care physicians. Your details mattered, and they prevailed.
Agree with prior comment --THANK YOU!!!! For all this work for not just Dr Hoffe but for ALL DOCTORS and healthcare providers trying to do the right thing in this madness. I believe the tide is only being turned by highly credible and knowledgeable doctors such as yourself, Dr McCullough, Dr Malone and many others, who have both the knowledge base to understand and thus highlight the fraud, and the authority to stand up and speak clearly on it. GOD BLESS YOU Dr KORY!!!
Kind of makes you ill reading through that and considering just how many lives would have been saved if people would have cared about humans more than profits. It’s so blatant.
I remember someone (probably a bot) posting links to studies in the comments of Kirsch’s substack about how ivermectin had been proven not to be effective in studies. I clicked on the first study and was not surprised to find a study that said there wasn’t any advantage to taking ivermectin when it came to hospitalization. But if you read a little further, far less people who received ivermectin actually died compared to placebo (or maybe standard of care) group.
Fortunately for the industrial medical complex, they can completely misdirect the entire medical profession (except a few critical thinkers) by just carefully crafting the endpoints, making adjustments, or just plain lying in the study conclusion write up.
These people are not stupid. They are pathological.
But to end my comment on a positive note, this is excellent work. Thank you! Hoping for the best in Dr Hoffe’s case.
Thank you so much for doing this. Our prayers are for justice for all of you independent thinking, diligent and dutiful medical staff who have done the right thing. Real courage. May God bless and protect you all as you seek to protect others.
This is how to fight! The cabal that seeks to attack real health care doctors, seeks to ingratiate them selves with $ and invitations to the pharma party. It is evil to its core, and the don't care. Expose them and save lives.
a solution to Big Pharma is to create a totally new and independent craft of fully functioning medical providers, whether independent or hanging together as federacy like the United States of America was created under.
I guess I'm one of the fortunate ones: I've never gotten Covid19, not even symptoms of a cold.
My informed guess is that it's because I found (Italy) and started taking ivermectin after watching Dr Kory's senate testimony in Dec/'20. That, plus it was clear to me when the C19 jabs were being rolled out that they were clearly experimental, including that three months wasn't sufficient time to determine safety, let alone efficacy of those jabs.
Yes, I've made a multiple donations to the FLCCC! Kory, Marik et all are life savers doing brilliant work for humanity.
Big hugs to you Dr. Pierre Kory for taking the time and making the effort to support a Canadian truthteller. When will this nightmare of lies by our health agencies and governments come to an end? How much more evidence is needed? Those of us who remain unvaxxed know are decision was the right one. We are on your side and are forever grateful for your support.
It's pretty simple: Ivermectin is cheap, effective and available. It won't make huge profits for for hospitals or pharma companies. It won't require lockdowns, health "passports" or any other draconian measures. The hysterical and long running responses (despite scientific evidence otherwise) are a part of an entirely different plan for the civilization as a whole. Note, I did not say that this was a fake illness or that viruses aren't real. The illnesses experienced were not psychosomatic, but the care methods used were antithetical to good patient outcomes. The good doctors (of which there were sadly few) protested the stupidity and met with vitriol and threat of their reputations and livelihood. It is an abomination that it went on as long as it did, but this is more about control and profit, rather than competency or the extension of meaningful, healthful life. I shudder to think of what the next 5 years will show in terms of reduced/impeded longevity.
Thanks to you Dr. Kory and your FLCCC protocols our family was able to weather the Covid storm without the jabs! Also thanks to Dr. Tess Lawrie who’s honest evaluations helped me to understand how the worldwide censorship is only creating stronger truth warriors! Many many people are slowly waking up! Stay the course and know we are behind you all the way!
Hi Dr. Kory, after reading part 1 I became a founding member. Thank you for supporting your Canadian colleagues. The following quote from your Substack should be enough evidence to disqualify Dr. Corneil’s but I suspect the system is so corrupted no amount of evidence will be enough, and that is obvious to me.
"By violating their own trial protocol, they invalidated the systematic review, since 2,582 of the 3,409 patients included did not qualify for inclusion."
Thanks for your support Henry - greatly appreciated.. Also, that factoid you included above, I have to give credit where it is due - that discovery came from the obsessively detailed analytical work of the polymath tech entrepreneur Alexandros Marinos. He literally scoured every version of every trial protocol and when it was registered etc.. I cannot tell you how helpful he has been (he writes the Substack called "Do Your Own Research")
Local doctors in Seattle at the UW Medicine conglomerate still shake their heads if you say you use ivermectin & they mark your medical record.
Also extraordinarily disturbing was the Queen of the Netherlands speech at Davos where she spoke in favor of Digital ID because then “they” could tell who was vaccinated. So we still have a long long way to go.
Yup - I testified for 3 hours for Ryan Cole above, and the physicians on the Board were actually quite receptive and deferential to me. However, in their decision to restrict his license, they simply dismissed my entire testimony from the record for 2 reasons: 1) I apparently said I would testify before seeing the records. This is insane. I agreed to review the case and testify if they wanted me to, which is what I have done for every expert legal consult in my career and 2) they dsimissed the testimony "because we were friends" and thus "my testimony is unreliable." Literally. They dismissed my SWORN testimony.. because we were friends. Ryan is about to sue their ass off for this deprivation of his 1st amendment rights as he was not given an expert voice to be heard.
I had just read about this decision from an emailed medpage article. The discussion among the "medical professionals" cheering this decision and looking for more just disgusted me. I hope he is successful in fighting this BS.
Bill! Hey everybody reading this, William B. Grant is the person who sent me the Disinformation Playbook article in March of 2021. An email which literally changed my and many others lives. I finally understood the world around me in a way I was unable to before reading that article.. The world thanks you Bill!
Glad I was able to help you and I am very pleased with how you have run with this ball, making many vitural touchdowns. For those who might be interested, here is the link to my post re the Disinformation Playbook used by Big Pharma to discourage interest in vitamin D: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v14n22.shtml
Reading this shows how much work it takes to expose lies. Especially when they are spread by "trusted" people, journals, institutions and government. And lives are at stake including death or long term injuries either from covid or from the vaccine.
Can the medical board make an argument against what you have written?
I guess we have to look to history for precedents
The BIG LIE by Joseph Goebbels
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Don, you are one of my favorite commenters and you did not disappoint again. It is so true that to disprove a lie in science, it takes immense work, I hate that it is so because so few have the intellectual capacity AND stamina to stick with the argument
Looking forward to shaking your hand at the Conference!!
Even science requires a common ground to be taken by a group at a certain time to be "true"
Take a fact. What time is it in? Is it timeless? What space is it in? Is it space less? How much does it weigh? How long will it endure? How are facts constructed? How do facts die?
The covid "pandemic" has laid bare assumptions about institutions and groups that were previously invisible. Flccc.net is but one effort to reconstruct a local common ground.
of course. of course. This is how I met Laura Krasner.
I moved up to the front row in the Columbus OH event and with trepidation I asked Dr. Kory how to acquire IVM (ivermectin). So far I had obtained one prescription of 40 3 mg IVM from my dermatologist who uses it in his practice and everyone in his group was taking IVM.
I had to try about 8 pharmacies to be able to fill this prescription. Either no one could get it or small independent pharmacies would not open up their store to acquire the medicine. This was in the time when supply chains shut down deliveries. I was desperate. With 40, 3 mg tablets at a cost of $50 and I had no way of obtaining any more. This is equivalent to 10 doses of 12 mg tablets.
I heard that it costs 6 cents to make these 3 mg tablets which are FDA approved in the US.
I had asked the last question of the day-long event and Laura Krasner came up to me and said that she gets IVM from India. I was blown away. She immediately mailed me 4 times the quantity of IVM that I had been able to obtain by prescription. They were 12 mg tablets from India. She then sent in an order for 200 tablets and I paid her when I got the tablets.
Over 2 years later, I have not had covid, but at the time when I was still scared by the "pandemic" because potentially life saving medicine had been blocked by the government and supply chains in order to give the EUA to Big Pharma.
In summary, the question to Pierre Kory and the follow up from Laura Krasner put my mind at ease along with the flccc.net protocols.
IVM is over the counter in most countries in the world. While the original prescription cost $50, a couple of years later I got an equivalent dosage for less than $2 in Egypt.
Wonderful and thorough report! Dr Kory, just wondering in the response to 6.4 after you mentioned altronics did you mean for the date to be in Jan '23 or was it 2024?
As a reader of Kory’s writings early in covid, he made a point about the 30,000 foot view of ALL of this ivermectin talk: the directionality tells the story.
When patient responses are thrown up on the board as clouds of dots in sundry trials of varied complexity, rigor, size, etc., ONE thing stood out about ivermectin: it showed DIRECTIONAL improvement. “How much” was a secondary phenomenon.
Think of it this way. CPR probably has a wildly varied outcome depending upon the circumstances of any individual case. Was it performed in a hospital by staff while in surgery, in the field by EMTs, or in the supermarket by some teenaged bystander? Outcomes probably are recorded already by class, and it would stand to reason that the above list declines in positive outcome. However, the mere fact of administration of CPR no doubt is borne out in records that positive outcomes are possible whereas negative outcomes are moot.
In the case of ivermectin, if the needle is consistently moving directionally in the favor of positive outcome, then there is efficacy. Because the safety profile is, uniquely, so benign, ivermectin was blessed with this de-cloaking device that enabled Kory to see and declare this beautiful discovery. By causing no known harm, any needle movement PROVES action, and if action is positive, the treatment has efficacy.
On this basis, standing alone, ivermectin earned its place in the arsenal, and Kory cemented his place in history as a savior of countless lives.
Many thanks to you and Paul. You have saved one life in this family with your protocol, which had to be fought for against 4 critical care physicians. Your details mattered, and they prevailed.
100% 100% 100%.. someone gets it :)
Yay!
Thank you for doing this work pro bono. For all of us.
Agree with prior comment --THANK YOU!!!! For all this work for not just Dr Hoffe but for ALL DOCTORS and healthcare providers trying to do the right thing in this madness. I believe the tide is only being turned by highly credible and knowledgeable doctors such as yourself, Dr McCullough, Dr Malone and many others, who have both the knowledge base to understand and thus highlight the fraud, and the authority to stand up and speak clearly on it. GOD BLESS YOU Dr KORY!!!
Discernment is needed. Some of the people mentioned are controlled opposition.
Kind of makes you ill reading through that and considering just how many lives would have been saved if people would have cared about humans more than profits. It’s so blatant.
I remember someone (probably a bot) posting links to studies in the comments of Kirsch’s substack about how ivermectin had been proven not to be effective in studies. I clicked on the first study and was not surprised to find a study that said there wasn’t any advantage to taking ivermectin when it came to hospitalization. But if you read a little further, far less people who received ivermectin actually died compared to placebo (or maybe standard of care) group.
Fortunately for the industrial medical complex, they can completely misdirect the entire medical profession (except a few critical thinkers) by just carefully crafting the endpoints, making adjustments, or just plain lying in the study conclusion write up.
These people are not stupid. They are pathological.
But to end my comment on a positive note, this is excellent work. Thank you! Hoping for the best in Dr Hoffe’s case.
Thank you so much for doing this. Our prayers are for justice for all of you independent thinking, diligent and dutiful medical staff who have done the right thing. Real courage. May God bless and protect you all as you seek to protect others.
This is how to fight! The cabal that seeks to attack real health care doctors, seeks to ingratiate them selves with $ and invitations to the pharma party. It is evil to its core, and the don't care. Expose them and save lives.
a solution to Big Pharma is to create a totally new and independent craft of fully functioning medical providers, whether independent or hanging together as federacy like the United States of America was created under.
The solution to big Pharma is keeping yourself healthy and not using their products. So, yes your'e right.
How about fully FUNCTIONAL medical providers?
I guess I'm one of the fortunate ones: I've never gotten Covid19, not even symptoms of a cold.
My informed guess is that it's because I found (Italy) and started taking ivermectin after watching Dr Kory's senate testimony in Dec/'20. That, plus it was clear to me when the C19 jabs were being rolled out that they were clearly experimental, including that three months wasn't sufficient time to determine safety, let alone efficacy of those jabs.
Yes, I've made a multiple donations to the FLCCC! Kory, Marik et all are life savers doing brilliant work for humanity.
Big hugs to you Dr. Pierre Kory for taking the time and making the effort to support a Canadian truthteller. When will this nightmare of lies by our health agencies and governments come to an end? How much more evidence is needed? Those of us who remain unvaxxed know are decision was the right one. We are on your side and are forever grateful for your support.
It's pretty simple: Ivermectin is cheap, effective and available. It won't make huge profits for for hospitals or pharma companies. It won't require lockdowns, health "passports" or any other draconian measures. The hysterical and long running responses (despite scientific evidence otherwise) are a part of an entirely different plan for the civilization as a whole. Note, I did not say that this was a fake illness or that viruses aren't real. The illnesses experienced were not psychosomatic, but the care methods used were antithetical to good patient outcomes. The good doctors (of which there were sadly few) protested the stupidity and met with vitriol and threat of their reputations and livelihood. It is an abomination that it went on as long as it did, but this is more about control and profit, rather than competency or the extension of meaningful, healthful life. I shudder to think of what the next 5 years will show in terms of reduced/impeded longevity.
Thanks to you Dr. Kory and your FLCCC protocols our family was able to weather the Covid storm without the jabs! Also thanks to Dr. Tess Lawrie who’s honest evaluations helped me to understand how the worldwide censorship is only creating stronger truth warriors! Many many people are slowly waking up! Stay the course and know we are behind you all the way!
Hi Dr. Kory, after reading part 1 I became a founding member. Thank you for supporting your Canadian colleagues. The following quote from your Substack should be enough evidence to disqualify Dr. Corneil’s but I suspect the system is so corrupted no amount of evidence will be enough, and that is obvious to me.
"By violating their own trial protocol, they invalidated the systematic review, since 2,582 of the 3,409 patients included did not qualify for inclusion."
Thanks for your support Henry - greatly appreciated.. Also, that factoid you included above, I have to give credit where it is due - that discovery came from the obsessively detailed analytical work of the polymath tech entrepreneur Alexandros Marinos. He literally scoured every version of every trial protocol and when it was registered etc.. I cannot tell you how helpful he has been (he writes the Substack called "Do Your Own Research")
As of January 2024, Washington State is still banning doctors for prescribing ivermectin. see link to article in Seattle Times.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/washington-restricts-license-of-idaho-doctor-for-covid-dishonesty/
Local doctors in Seattle at the UW Medicine conglomerate still shake their heads if you say you use ivermectin & they mark your medical record.
Also extraordinarily disturbing was the Queen of the Netherlands speech at Davos where she spoke in favor of Digital ID because then “they” could tell who was vaccinated. So we still have a long long way to go.
Yup - I testified for 3 hours for Ryan Cole above, and the physicians on the Board were actually quite receptive and deferential to me. However, in their decision to restrict his license, they simply dismissed my entire testimony from the record for 2 reasons: 1) I apparently said I would testify before seeing the records. This is insane. I agreed to review the case and testify if they wanted me to, which is what I have done for every expert legal consult in my career and 2) they dsimissed the testimony "because we were friends" and thus "my testimony is unreliable." Literally. They dismissed my SWORN testimony.. because we were friends. Ryan is about to sue their ass off for this deprivation of his 1st amendment rights as he was not given an expert voice to be heard.
I had just read about this decision from an emailed medpage article. The discussion among the "medical professionals" cheering this decision and looking for more just disgusted me. I hope he is successful in fighting this BS.
Great description and use of the Disinformation Playbook in your defense of Dr. Hoffe!
Bill! Hey everybody reading this, William B. Grant is the person who sent me the Disinformation Playbook article in March of 2021. An email which literally changed my and many others lives. I finally understood the world around me in a way I was unable to before reading that article.. The world thanks you Bill!
Glad I was able to help you and I am very pleased with how you have run with this ball, making many vitural touchdowns. For those who might be interested, here is the link to my post re the Disinformation Playbook used by Big Pharma to discourage interest in vitamin D: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v14n22.shtml
Reading this shows how much work it takes to expose lies. Especially when they are spread by "trusted" people, journals, institutions and government. And lives are at stake including death or long term injuries either from covid or from the vaccine.
Can the medical board make an argument against what you have written?
I guess we have to look to history for precedents
The BIG LIE by Joseph Goebbels
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Don, you are one of my favorite commenters and you did not disappoint again. It is so true that to disprove a lie in science, it takes immense work, I hate that it is so because so few have the intellectual capacity AND stamina to stick with the argument
Looking forward to shaking your hand at the Conference!!
Even science requires a common ground to be taken by a group at a certain time to be "true"
Take a fact. What time is it in? Is it timeless? What space is it in? Is it space less? How much does it weigh? How long will it endure? How are facts constructed? How do facts die?
The covid "pandemic" has laid bare assumptions about institutions and groups that were previously invisible. Flccc.net is but one effort to reconstruct a local common ground.
Don - when you get to shake Pierre’s hand at the conference, make sure you tell him how/why we met. 🥰
of course. of course. This is how I met Laura Krasner.
I moved up to the front row in the Columbus OH event and with trepidation I asked Dr. Kory how to acquire IVM (ivermectin). So far I had obtained one prescription of 40 3 mg IVM from my dermatologist who uses it in his practice and everyone in his group was taking IVM.
I had to try about 8 pharmacies to be able to fill this prescription. Either no one could get it or small independent pharmacies would not open up their store to acquire the medicine. This was in the time when supply chains shut down deliveries. I was desperate. With 40, 3 mg tablets at a cost of $50 and I had no way of obtaining any more. This is equivalent to 10 doses of 12 mg tablets.
I heard that it costs 6 cents to make these 3 mg tablets which are FDA approved in the US.
I had asked the last question of the day-long event and Laura Krasner came up to me and said that she gets IVM from India. I was blown away. She immediately mailed me 4 times the quantity of IVM that I had been able to obtain by prescription. They were 12 mg tablets from India. She then sent in an order for 200 tablets and I paid her when I got the tablets.
Over 2 years later, I have not had covid, but at the time when I was still scared by the "pandemic" because potentially life saving medicine had been blocked by the government and supply chains in order to give the EUA to Big Pharma.
In summary, the question to Pierre Kory and the follow up from Laura Krasner put my mind at ease along with the flccc.net protocols.
IVM is over the counter in most countries in the world. While the original prescription cost $50, a couple of years later I got an equivalent dosage for less than $2 in Egypt.
Wonderful and thorough report! Dr Kory, just wondering in the response to 6.4 after you mentioned altronics did you mean for the date to be in Jan '23 or was it 2024?
24, whoops
*I meant to say altmetrics
Why do I think of Ignaz Semelweiss so often? Groupthink is a powerful blindfold.
John - I too think of Ignaz Semelweiss. So sad and tragic that he ended up in a mental institution where he died after the guards beat him up.