thought you might want to hear / see this: Glenn Lowry Brown Univ Professor of Economics & John McWhorter Columbia Univ professor of Linguistics discuss the death of Floyd
The main fact in the case of George Floyd is that the officers present did nothing wrong and followed proper procedures when confronted with a wildly resisting subject, George Floyd. Exactly what he died of is of little relevance.
You wrote: "Another argument made by commenters is that Parry states that prone restraint is included as a tactic in the police manual. Not true." Where did you get that idea? The evidence shows you are wrong about that. Prone restraint was taught to Minneapolis police officers, and many said so on camera. Prone restraint has been very common in police work, often combined with a hobble. There is even a photo with a police officer with his neck on a prone suspect in a training document showing how to restrain combatant suspects. That manual was given to Chauvin, the cop who put his knee Floyd's neck, who may never get out of prison. But the biased judge would not allow any evidence of prone restraint being taught to police.
You may be right about what caused Floyd's death. It was declared a "murder" by the jury because if the jury said the police did not murder Floyd then their own lives would be at risk from the mob. The court room was surrounded by barbed wire fences and guarded by national guard troops just because of what would have happened if the police were found in any way innocent.
The police had another option, and that was to put a hobbling restraint device on Floyd, to prevent him from kicking. When that is done, then the police manual says to put that suspect on his side, as it recognized that a hobble plus a prone position is dangerous. This can be seen in a shot of the key document in the recent documentary, but they don't talk about it as it does not support the police. But the police did not do the hobble, as they had called for emergency service right away when they recognized Floyd's distress before he was even prone. But that call got screwed up, and the ambulance was very late getting there. They may have not done the hobble because they expected the ambulance to arrive soon. Without using a hobble they had to keep him prone to stop him resisting. You can see how much trouble it was for them to try and put him in the police car after he was handcuffed. He was only "claustrophobic" in the police car, not in his own car.
Of course, the police could have just forced Floyd into the car and drive it to the police station. If they had done that, nothing unusual would likely have happened. But instead they called for an ambulance which showed up very late, and had to keep him under control until it arrived.
A documentary about the George Floyd case. This incident further weakened America, destroyed the lives of 4 police officers, and the life of a city. All should watch it.
Four policemen are now in prison because a narrative needed to be advanced. Using Dr. Kory's expertise for the cause of death is a "side show". Here's an alternative story https://rumble.com/v3vyvzv-the-fall-of-minneapolis.html
Admittedly, I did not follow this story that closely as we had our own battles in Canada, but I watched The Fall of Minneapolis last night and it gives another version of the story. It has many testimonies of police officers and several who have since resigned from the Force unfortunately. The documentary claims evidence was being withheld during the trial by the judge and the chief of police lied on the stand. These are serious accusations. Dr Kory, I appreciate your truthfulness about Covid and early treatment as there are few in the medical world who had the courage to stand up like you did and continue to do. Have you seen this documentary and if so, I’d like your opinion given your experience on this case. Thanks
The judge had multiple conflicts of interest in this case and should have been recused. He was involved in an open case against the friend who was sitting in the car at the time of George Floyd’s arrest, that witness was allowed to refuse to testify due to how his testimony might influence his own case. The judge suppressed exculpatory evidence (the training manual, other photography), allowed the chief of police to perjure himself, and manipulated the trial outcome.
Is it possible that nobody killed Floyd, and the whole thing was only crisis acting in order to unleash the freshly-released criminals of Antifa and BLM on the people?
I saw “possible acromegaly.” As a lay person, I would not think of acromegaly when looking at the documentary cited earlier. He seemed very muscular, not gangly or spidery-fingered like I think of as associated with acromegaly. So, I wonder, was the coroner referring to what he saw in ligaments or microscopically, for his assessment. I am interested, not at all trying to be argumentative. One thing is certain, he was not a “healthy” man, as stated in one report.
Dr. Kory - first I want to say I so appreciate your work during all the COVID madness, and your courage in speaking out. Your fight with the establishment over ivermectin is what first opened my father's eyes to the strangeness that was going on.
I know you're busy, and I understand if you don't have time to read articles random strangers send to you, but I'm curious what you think about this theory. If I'm understanding it correctly, they don't think George Floyd died of a drug overdose either, but an adrenaline-caused catecholamine crisis. Is that at all plausible, and would the police be at all absolved for their failure to recognize what was going on? This article makes it sound like once the crisis began, George would probably still have died even if he made it to the hospital.
Anyway, I was just wondering. Thank you for your time.
The debate here is wild! GF was a doped up, criminal mess. Mistakes were made, but IF GF hadn't had a wrap sheet as long as WAR and PEACE, we wouldn't be talking about this. The police wouldn't have been involved if he hadn't been a long term criminal.
I have no credentials. Just opinion. Based on the autopsy GF had mass amts of drugs in his system and had yet ANOTHER encounter with the police. I think he died of his own stupidity, and he knew he was dying. Sometimes the most simple answer is the correct one. Too bad the police were called and had to encounter such a scumbag. Now they have to suffer too. It's unfortunate all the way around.
He's gone, and no one will have to deal with him anymore. I have no problem with that outcome.
Sure, here is a reference for morphine, also an opioid (but much weaker); the mechanism of action is similar.
"morphine addicts can grow to tolerate over two grams a day, though it normally only takes 200 milligrams to induce a fatal overdose (60 in extreme cases"
by 'naïve' I meant a person who has never used opioids before, and thus has no tolerance to it. This is an accepted medical use of that term. (for example the article: "Low Morphine Doses in Opioid-Naive Cancer Patients with Pain" found at https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0885392406000091
big fan Dr Kory.
thought you might want to hear / see this: Glenn Lowry Brown Univ Professor of Economics & John McWhorter Columbia Univ professor of Linguistics discuss the death of Floyd
https://glennloury.substack.com/p/derek-chauvin-did-not-murder-george
this is just approx 15 minutes of an hour conversation. the full dialogue will be available on podcast apps likely Friday.
The main fact in the case of George Floyd is that the officers present did nothing wrong and followed proper procedures when confronted with a wildly resisting subject, George Floyd. Exactly what he died of is of little relevance.
For proof of what I say, see https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/
You wrote: "Another argument made by commenters is that Parry states that prone restraint is included as a tactic in the police manual. Not true." Where did you get that idea? The evidence shows you are wrong about that. Prone restraint was taught to Minneapolis police officers, and many said so on camera. Prone restraint has been very common in police work, often combined with a hobble. There is even a photo with a police officer with his neck on a prone suspect in a training document showing how to restrain combatant suspects. That manual was given to Chauvin, the cop who put his knee Floyd's neck, who may never get out of prison. But the biased judge would not allow any evidence of prone restraint being taught to police.
This is very clearly shown in a new documentary defending the police:https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com
You may be right about what caused Floyd's death. It was declared a "murder" by the jury because if the jury said the police did not murder Floyd then their own lives would be at risk from the mob. The court room was surrounded by barbed wire fences and guarded by national guard troops just because of what would have happened if the police were found in any way innocent.
The police had another option, and that was to put a hobbling restraint device on Floyd, to prevent him from kicking. When that is done, then the police manual says to put that suspect on his side, as it recognized that a hobble plus a prone position is dangerous. This can be seen in a shot of the key document in the recent documentary, but they don't talk about it as it does not support the police. But the police did not do the hobble, as they had called for emergency service right away when they recognized Floyd's distress before he was even prone. But that call got screwed up, and the ambulance was very late getting there. They may have not done the hobble because they expected the ambulance to arrive soon. Without using a hobble they had to keep him prone to stop him resisting. You can see how much trouble it was for them to try and put him in the police car after he was handcuffed. He was only "claustrophobic" in the police car, not in his own car.
Of course, the police could have just forced Floyd into the car and drive it to the police station. If they had done that, nothing unusual would likely have happened. But instead they called for an ambulance which showed up very late, and had to keep him under control until it arrived.
A documentary about the George Floyd case. This incident further weakened America, destroyed the lives of 4 police officers, and the life of a city. All should watch it.
https://rumble.com/v3vyvzv-the-fall-of-minneapolis.html
Four policemen are now in prison because a narrative needed to be advanced. Using Dr. Kory's expertise for the cause of death is a "side show". Here's an alternative story https://rumble.com/v3vyvzv-the-fall-of-minneapolis.html
Detailed new Liz Collins documentary:
https://rumble.com/v3vyvzv-the-fall-of-minneapolis.html
https://thelions.locals.com/post/4879929/the-truth-always-comes-out-https-rumble-com-v3vyvzv-the-fall-of-minneapolis-html0
Admittedly, I did not follow this story that closely as we had our own battles in Canada, but I watched The Fall of Minneapolis last night and it gives another version of the story. It has many testimonies of police officers and several who have since resigned from the Force unfortunately. The documentary claims evidence was being withheld during the trial by the judge and the chief of police lied on the stand. These are serious accusations. Dr Kory, I appreciate your truthfulness about Covid and early treatment as there are few in the medical world who had the courage to stand up like you did and continue to do. Have you seen this documentary and if so, I’d like your opinion given your experience on this case. Thanks
Here’s a new documentary you might want to watch thefallofminneapolis.com
The judge had multiple conflicts of interest in this case and should have been recused. He was involved in an open case against the friend who was sitting in the car at the time of George Floyd’s arrest, that witness was allowed to refuse to testify due to how his testimony might influence his own case. The judge suppressed exculpatory evidence (the training manual, other photography), allowed the chief of police to perjure himself, and manipulated the trial outcome.
Is it possible that nobody killed Floyd, and the whole thing was only crisis acting in order to unleash the freshly-released criminals of Antifa and BLM on the people?
Jack Cashill has an article today about George Floyd’s death. It is interesting. I had never heard of a paraganglioma before.
https://spectator.org/how-george-floyd-actually-died/
Yep. And he had acromegaly. Watch the documentary thefallofminneapolis.com
I saw “possible acromegaly.” As a lay person, I would not think of acromegaly when looking at the documentary cited earlier. He seemed very muscular, not gangly or spidery-fingered like I think of as associated with acromegaly. So, I wonder, was the coroner referring to what he saw in ligaments or microscopically, for his assessment. I am interested, not at all trying to be argumentative. One thing is certain, he was not a “healthy” man, as stated in one report.
Dr. Kory - first I want to say I so appreciate your work during all the COVID madness, and your courage in speaking out. Your fight with the establishment over ivermectin is what first opened my father's eyes to the strangeness that was going on.
I know you're busy, and I understand if you don't have time to read articles random strangers send to you, but I'm curious what you think about this theory. If I'm understanding it correctly, they don't think George Floyd died of a drug overdose either, but an adrenaline-caused catecholamine crisis. Is that at all plausible, and would the police be at all absolved for their failure to recognize what was going on? This article makes it sound like once the crisis began, George would probably still have died even if he made it to the hospital.
Anyway, I was just wondering. Thank you for your time.
https://spectator.org/how-george-floyd-actually-died/
The debate here is wild! GF was a doped up, criminal mess. Mistakes were made, but IF GF hadn't had a wrap sheet as long as WAR and PEACE, we wouldn't be talking about this. The police wouldn't have been involved if he hadn't been a long term criminal.
I have no credentials. Just opinion. Based on the autopsy GF had mass amts of drugs in his system and had yet ANOTHER encounter with the police. I think he died of his own stupidity, and he knew he was dying. Sometimes the most simple answer is the correct one. Too bad the police were called and had to encounter such a scumbag. Now they have to suffer too. It's unfortunate all the way around.
He's gone, and no one will have to deal with him anymore. I have no problem with that outcome.
More "truth," not paid expert testimony, real life.
https://alphanews.org/court-docs-reveal-extreme-public-pressure-on-prosecutors-in-george-floyd-case/
These comments: it’s like nobody read the article, all over again 🤓
Sure, here is a reference for morphine, also an opioid (but much weaker); the mechanism of action is similar.
"morphine addicts can grow to tolerate over two grams a day, though it normally only takes 200 milligrams to induce a fatal overdose (60 in extreme cases"
Source: https://talbottcampus.com/how-much-morphine-will-cause-an-overdose/
by 'naïve' I meant a person who has never used opioids before, and thus has no tolerance to it. This is an accepted medical use of that term. (for example the article: "Low Morphine Doses in Opioid-Naive Cancer Patients with Pain" found at https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0885392406000091