I’m not a Dr and have been retired 10 years. Our training at the time was the awareness of Positional Asphyxia with your prisoner. If you had to place him/her on the ground in cuffs, his positioning was extremely important. Pressure on the subjects chest in awkward positions could cause real impacts on his/her breathing. Efforts had to be made to readjust the subjects position to allow deep breathing. The few incidents I witnessed, the subject made it very clear his/her breathing was extremely restricted. Very panicky!!!
Exactly right Don. Same way they killed that big guy in New York a few years back. I've got plenty of experience in both situations of restraining and being restrained in that manner and it doesn't take much pressure to shut down a guy's breathing in that position. In fact it's the same anatomical effects as being crucified. The only difference is the subject's weight is putting the pressure on his breathing in crucifixion rather than an opponent putting their weight on his back... the above anesthesiologist's comment about 160 lb man not being able to exert that much pressure shows a lack of experience on the mats or in the real world. This gets down to training and selection of police officers and I've found that generally Society gets what it pays for. Everybody wants Navy Seals and ninjas for policeman but they're not willing to pay for that kind of training and selection so mistakes happen.
Positional asphyxia can indeed cause diaphragmatic impairment. When a person is in a position that restricts their ability to breathe effectively, such as the prone position (lying face down), their diaphragm, which is the primary muscle responsible for breathing, may become compromised. Here's how this can happen:
Chest Compression: In the prone position, the weight of the person's chest and abdomen, along with any external pressure or restraints, can compress the ribcage and limit the ability of the chest wall to expand during inhalation. This chest compression can restrict the diaphragm's movement and its ability to contract fully, reducing the person's ability to take in air. Here there were two people on his posterior thoracic cage and abdomen so he could not breath.
Increased Work of Breathing: When a person is in a compromised position, such as being restrained or pinned down, they may need to exert more effort to breathe. This increased work of breathing can fatigue the diaphragm and other respiratory muscles over time, making it even more challenging for the individual to maintain adequate ventilation. GF slowly ran out of energy to breath
Impaired Lung Function: The prone position may also lead to impaired lung function. The lower lobes of the lungs can become compressed against the ground, reducing ventilation in those areas and limiting the exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide. Another form of mechanical block to the act of respiration.
As a result of these factors, the individual's ability to breathe properly is compromised, which can lead to hypoxia (inadequate oxygen supply to the body's tissues) and hypercapnia (excessive carbon dioxide levels in the blood). Hypoxia and hypercapnia can have serious health consequences, including cardiac arrhythmias, loss of consciousness, and, in severe cases, cardiac arrest. Prolonged periods of positional asphyxia can be life-threatening.
Officer Mace
Does it impede diaphragmatic expansion and retraction? Is that the cause for asphyxia? Please advise
Thanks
BF
I’m not a Dr and have been retired 10 years. Our training at the time was the awareness of Positional Asphyxia with your prisoner. If you had to place him/her on the ground in cuffs, his positioning was extremely important. Pressure on the subjects chest in awkward positions could cause real impacts on his/her breathing. Efforts had to be made to readjust the subjects position to allow deep breathing. The few incidents I witnessed, the subject made it very clear his/her breathing was extremely restricted. Very panicky!!!
Exactly right Don. Same way they killed that big guy in New York a few years back. I've got plenty of experience in both situations of restraining and being restrained in that manner and it doesn't take much pressure to shut down a guy's breathing in that position. In fact it's the same anatomical effects as being crucified. The only difference is the subject's weight is putting the pressure on his breathing in crucifixion rather than an opponent putting their weight on his back... the above anesthesiologist's comment about 160 lb man not being able to exert that much pressure shows a lack of experience on the mats or in the real world. This gets down to training and selection of police officers and I've found that generally Society gets what it pays for. Everybody wants Navy Seals and ninjas for policeman but they're not willing to pay for that kind of training and selection so mistakes happen.
I read about it officer and here is the analysis
Positional asphyxia can indeed cause diaphragmatic impairment. When a person is in a position that restricts their ability to breathe effectively, such as the prone position (lying face down), their diaphragm, which is the primary muscle responsible for breathing, may become compromised. Here's how this can happen:
Chest Compression: In the prone position, the weight of the person's chest and abdomen, along with any external pressure or restraints, can compress the ribcage and limit the ability of the chest wall to expand during inhalation. This chest compression can restrict the diaphragm's movement and its ability to contract fully, reducing the person's ability to take in air. Here there were two people on his posterior thoracic cage and abdomen so he could not breath.
Increased Work of Breathing: When a person is in a compromised position, such as being restrained or pinned down, they may need to exert more effort to breathe. This increased work of breathing can fatigue the diaphragm and other respiratory muscles over time, making it even more challenging for the individual to maintain adequate ventilation. GF slowly ran out of energy to breath
Impaired Lung Function: The prone position may also lead to impaired lung function. The lower lobes of the lungs can become compressed against the ground, reducing ventilation in those areas and limiting the exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide. Another form of mechanical block to the act of respiration.
As a result of these factors, the individual's ability to breathe properly is compromised, which can lead to hypoxia (inadequate oxygen supply to the body's tissues) and hypercapnia (excessive carbon dioxide levels in the blood). Hypoxia and hypercapnia can have serious health consequences, including cardiac arrhythmias, loss of consciousness, and, in severe cases, cardiac arrest. Prolonged periods of positional asphyxia can be life-threatening.