thanks for this! i don’t recall having seen this particular episode. watching today.
btw, one of my dogs has CHF; very familiar with the meds (they rule our life 🫠). 25 years of having dogs and i can’t recall ever using a medicine that i wasn’t already familiar with b/c of human use (except for vaccines).
thanks for this! i don’t recall having seen this particular episode. watching today.
btw, one of my dogs has CHF; very familiar with the meds (they rule our life 🫠). 25 years of having dogs and i can’t recall ever using a medicine that i wasn’t already familiar with b/c of human use (except for vaccines).
Hi Brook, the medication I was referring to is Furosemide( Commercial names include: Frusemide, Lasix, Discoid, Uremide) and it is used to treat edema due to heart failure. I was treating my 18 year old Cavashon for 2 years (recently) with it whilst caring for a family member with CHF who, amongst other meds was taking this for the same medical complaint. Both have passed away now.
I’m so sorry for your loss 💔 CHF is a heartbreaking condition to work thru. My vet gave her 6 months upon dx. She’s approx 4 yrs out from that day. I really don’t know how we’ve managed to get so lucky with this. We’ve rearranged our lives around it, but I think everyone does as much as they can. It never makes any damn sense as to which get on better and which don’t.
my vet prescribed 3 meds for CHF. Furosemide, Pimobenden (vasodilator), and Spironolactone (mild diuretic). Early on she acquired an upper respiratory infection that required a couple of ER trips. we ended up treated with Amox-Clav, and kept those cans of oxygen that runners use around for when she was in extreme distress.
She also has a knee injury that gives her trouble when it rains or gets cold, and we give Tramadol for that.
All these meds have use in humans.
My other dog, actually, has seizures from the (exclusively) dog med, Advantage—one of those heartworm/flea meds that apply to their coat. So I treat him with ivermectin now to protect from heartworm—that was the original med in Heartguard. No more seizures. For fleas we do frequent baths and occasional spritz with natural repellents.
Moral of the story is that the older, well known human meds have proven to be quite effective while the med used exclusively for canines (Advantage) was toxic enough to cause seizures 🤬
That’s really interesting Brook because my dog lived to 18 and we had at least four years of treatment and she did really well on those meds up until her quality of life was beginning to go downhill, just the same as my family member. I’m always surprised at how dismissive people can be when they don’t know what they’re talking about. Anyway keeping an open mind is very important.
Yep, that’s the family member I was referring to. He died last July. We (adult children) cared for him ourselves for 5 years. I’m sorry for your loss too Brook and yes, it’s a very difficult road to walk with them but now, I have no regrets, about either, I did all I could and more. So I think, being able to live with yourself, your values and actions when they’re gone counts for everything. But you do pay a price, physically and psychologically. Particularly if you are compromised yourself as well. And yes, in both cases, life completely rearranged around them both. C’est la vie🤷♀️
Wow, that’s really instructive isn’t it? I have recently seen a series from “ White Underbelly” YouTube of interest in the area of the ineffectiveness and oftentimes dangers of new medications. It was a shocking inditement of the modern industry for inventing vastly expensive though thoroughly inefficatious drugs. Conning many desperate human beings ill and dying from various forms of cancer. The fact they don’t work is irrelevant to those companies and shockingly, to the doctors who prescribe them . What a worse, if there can be worse is that those companies are not bound to prove that they are effective. At all. The general public are not aware of this. Imagine the vulnerable people and their desperate families destroying what is left of their lives with misery making chemicals in the gals hope that they will make them better. Things really have taken a turn to a very dark place.
There is no “schedule in Europe, of vaccines, like there is for human babies and pets like dogs. It really begs the question, what on earth is wrong with human parents of children or owners of pets that would even allow this? What ever happened to common sense?
thanks for this! i don’t recall having seen this particular episode. watching today.
btw, one of my dogs has CHF; very familiar with the meds (they rule our life 🫠). 25 years of having dogs and i can’t recall ever using a medicine that i wasn’t already familiar with b/c of human use (except for vaccines).
Hi Brook, the medication I was referring to is Furosemide( Commercial names include: Frusemide, Lasix, Discoid, Uremide) and it is used to treat edema due to heart failure. I was treating my 18 year old Cavashon for 2 years (recently) with it whilst caring for a family member with CHF who, amongst other meds was taking this for the same medical complaint. Both have passed away now.
I’m so sorry for your loss 💔 CHF is a heartbreaking condition to work thru. My vet gave her 6 months upon dx. She’s approx 4 yrs out from that day. I really don’t know how we’ve managed to get so lucky with this. We’ve rearranged our lives around it, but I think everyone does as much as they can. It never makes any damn sense as to which get on better and which don’t.
my vet prescribed 3 meds for CHF. Furosemide, Pimobenden (vasodilator), and Spironolactone (mild diuretic). Early on she acquired an upper respiratory infection that required a couple of ER trips. we ended up treated with Amox-Clav, and kept those cans of oxygen that runners use around for when she was in extreme distress.
She also has a knee injury that gives her trouble when it rains or gets cold, and we give Tramadol for that.
All these meds have use in humans.
My other dog, actually, has seizures from the (exclusively) dog med, Advantage—one of those heartworm/flea meds that apply to their coat. So I treat him with ivermectin now to protect from heartworm—that was the original med in Heartguard. No more seizures. For fleas we do frequent baths and occasional spritz with natural repellents.
Moral of the story is that the older, well known human meds have proven to be quite effective while the med used exclusively for canines (Advantage) was toxic enough to cause seizures 🤬
That’s really interesting Brook because my dog lived to 18 and we had at least four years of treatment and she did really well on those meds up until her quality of life was beginning to go downhill, just the same as my family member. I’m always surprised at how dismissive people can be when they don’t know what they’re talking about. Anyway keeping an open mind is very important.
oh...my dad died w/CHF too. i’m sorry 💕
Yep, that’s the family member I was referring to. He died last July. We (adult children) cared for him ourselves for 5 years. I’m sorry for your loss too Brook and yes, it’s a very difficult road to walk with them but now, I have no regrets, about either, I did all I could and more. So I think, being able to live with yourself, your values and actions when they’re gone counts for everything. But you do pay a price, physically and psychologically. Particularly if you are compromised yourself as well. And yes, in both cases, life completely rearranged around them both. C’est la vie🤷♀️
Wow, that’s really instructive isn’t it? I have recently seen a series from “ White Underbelly” YouTube of interest in the area of the ineffectiveness and oftentimes dangers of new medications. It was a shocking inditement of the modern industry for inventing vastly expensive though thoroughly inefficatious drugs. Conning many desperate human beings ill and dying from various forms of cancer. The fact they don’t work is irrelevant to those companies and shockingly, to the doctors who prescribe them . What a worse, if there can be worse is that those companies are not bound to prove that they are effective. At all. The general public are not aware of this. Imagine the vulnerable people and their desperate families destroying what is left of their lives with misery making chemicals in the gals hope that they will make them better. Things really have taken a turn to a very dark place.
I’ve begun to question the vet’s vaccine schedule for them, esp the new “dog flu” one.
There is no “schedule in Europe, of vaccines, like there is for human babies and pets like dogs. It really begs the question, what on earth is wrong with human parents of children or owners of pets that would even allow this? What ever happened to common sense?