In terms of crowds... I too have experienced this many times. I feel unwell with flu like symptoms and can smell a unique ordour around people. After feeling this way and smelling the same ordour several times in company with family and friends, I confirmed the correlation with the covid vaccination. As it transpired each has been vaccinated within the previous week. I am very sensitive to meds and in general and I swear I can smell something so now I ask and yep the link is there!
You are doing another great service to humanity yet again by covering this important and high strange medical topic. It will be valuable to carefully study the details of people's stories in order to understand the process better, and to figure out how to prevent it or nip its effects early. I hope your Substack becomes a good archive for these.
I first understood about shedding after our dog Spartacus received vaccines, particularly the rabies shot. Not only did he become neurologically different and have a couple of seizures, but I got ill for a few weeks. Malaise, lower back pain, horrible sleep. So l looked it up in PubMed and realized it was a real phenomenon. You don't need mRNA type shots. It is just that the risk to humans is likely shorter term.
I agree with your case history writers that I could do far better than chance in identifying recently vaccinated persons by just being a few feet from them while they are breathing for a minute or two. So let's do an experiment? Cultivate a sample of self-reported sensitives and see if they can tell. Time since vaccines and types of shots, particularly the toxic lots, would have to be recorded and analyzed to see if there is a sensitivity drop off by time or variation by type or lot. I would bet that would be easy to crowd fund. It also seems like a quirky thing Steve Kirsch might fund. Try to think of objective measures to throw into the mix to try to quantify or characterize what people are sensing. Like saliva and semen samples. Maybe menstrual flow samples. Would be happy to donate my research skills to a study group.
I agree with the letter writer that the phenomenon is less strong in the elderly. I figured this out being around my 86 y.o. stepdad, who moved in with us last year. He is now 2-3/4 years from last Moderna shot. He had eye bleeds within 6-8 weeks and rashes on legs and trunk post shot. Used oral ivermectin/pepcid/quercetin/zinc/aspirin/colchicine/topical ivermectin on skin with him and rashes were gone after a few months but the eye edema has to be treated with ongoing avastin shots which are successful enough. Whatever he was shedding seemed to wane in my perception concurrently as his rashes also subsided and he felt better. He got one of the toxic lots 011L20A so I have been monitoring his health carefully since learning that.
The worst case in my home of perceived shedding was when a friend of my husband's dropped by to leave items in storage while in the middle of a move, so there was physical activity going up and down stairs. I felt queasy around him and wondered why, as if he had some horrible after shave that I couldn't quite smell but was faintly chemical. He was getting ready for an international trip so mentioned he had just gotten his booster. I was amazed as I realized how the shedding might just be real, and alarmed at how easy to detect and spread.
My brother is two shots Pfizer with a highly toxic lot for his first shot EN6205. I detect this same faint smell and queasy sensation when being too near him when he visits me. He is a pilot and must be around vaccinated constantly. The smell was left behind on the sheets he slept on. We talk about this freely, so I asked him on a subsequent visit to go completely fragrance free with his hygiene routine. Still same smell permeated the room and sheets. He has seen one of our favorite FLCCC affiliated docs for help through telehealth for symptoms that could be post COVID he got after vaccination or post shot. Mainly stamina, fatigue, sleep. He always feels better after a few days of ivermectin.
The worst place in public thus far was standing in line at a pharmacy where they also have a vaccine clinic just a few feet away. Last visit was waiting for a prescription during the latest flu/booster wave at Kroger. I started feeling sick in the middle of the night, did the gargling and nose cleaning routine. It started with a tonsil (I still have mine) feeling like it was being stabbed with a strong pinprick of something caustic, and I woke up coughing, a lot. The next morning same focal pin prick feeling in one nostril, so gargle and nose cleanse again and full start of FLCCC protocol with IVM and items from other protocols like colchicine. I use the black cumin seed as drops and add those to the gargle mix. I have ivermectin face cream for rosacea (Soolantra) so I slathered that on especially around nostrils. Not sure if it was going to be regular respiratory illness or something else. I had a sore throat, was fatigued, warm skin like it was a bit inflamed but no fever. Light headache. Gone in two days. Notably, husband starting feeling sick within 8 hours of my first symptoms, same thing. He had not been out of the house for a week other than dog walking. Same FLCCC routine, gone in two days. Shedding? Vaccine evaporation in air at the clinic? Or did we catch a bona fide dose of virus? I go through the drive through for pharmacy products now.
My heart goes out to those with serious contact and consequences. Excessive menstrual bleeding can be more than miserable and medically dangerous. Shameful of the media to trivialize this. Abnormal bleeding especially post menopause triggers an alert for cancer and all kinds of testing, expensive and invasive. What an absolute nightmare.
Betsy - your insights are excellent and rational, as is your suggestion for a study - would be super easy to do. Almost reminds me of a study published by a dog trainer in a medical journal of a beagle he had trained to detect clostridium difficile in the stool of hospital patients. The beagle was 100% accurate actually - funny part is I then wanted to get a beagle for my ICU because C. diff tests often took a day or two to come back in some hospitals. Funny part is that my ICU nurses and nursing assistants were all pretty good at predicting C. diff from the smell and I literally wanted to do that study! But never did, because, you know, not enough hours in the day.
Another interesting anecdote is I met and became friends with a woman at the D.C Defeat the Mandates Rally who had a condo cleaning business in Maui (she cleaned all the condos of vacationing tourists).I will never forget what she told me after the vaccination campaign began (you had to be vaccinated to visit Hawaii by the way):
1) When changing the sheets she noticed they all started having a faint yellow tint to them
2) She would for the first time feel ill after each work day, with sensory neuropathy symptoms of pins and needles/electric shock like feelings (I think also headaches and dizziness but I may be misremembering)
3) She noticed that when cleaning bathrooms, she had never before seen so much blood splatter/drops, very frequently (which is surprising as the vaccinated tend to be hypercoagulable so I am not sure what that is about - perhaps less steady hands or uncoordination with fine movements when shaving?
4) She ended up closing her business because it was making her sick and now she no longer does that kind of work.
Dogs could be easily trained no doubt, but we need the human study to hone in on the target--what is it people are sensing and smelling? In the human study we need a control group for the discrimination task--those who were never aware of the ability before. Can they spot the vaccinated too? In other words can nearly all humans be trained to identify it?
I am in amazement at the story of the sheets. I believe the condo cleaner. Sheets are a definitely a thing. You could collect these after a week of sleeping and use them for stimuli, test them for residue. Something about the sweating and oils from glands, hair follicles and so forth. So the person that I mentioned who had just been boosted: He had stayed in our place twice. You learn their habits from the first visit. The visit after the booster a few months later, very different bathroom habits. In a long time, many visits, went through a box of kleenex and a full roll of toilet paper in two days. Showers were unbelievably long. While in the house he needed to wash his hands after touching anything like petting the dog. Endless hand washing. Like he was trying to rid himself of something. Maybe he sensed or smelled it too. I know he has a good nose as a vinophile.
Could Betsy Ashton and the FLCCC gang host a call to discuss the shedding problem and some study ideas? Would love to brain storm with a group of interested parties. You could put out a notice on X and here and help you circulate the call for a study group.
If you recall, I met you in Indianapolis in 2021 and talked to you about helping David Scheim with a handful of studies, now published after two years of work. Several on ivermectin and its impact on COVID and on rouleaux state blood. I worked most directly on the Peru study which finally got past all the desk rejections once the censorship lifted on ivermectin somewhat as the round of shots had completed. I am up for another project.
The implications of shedding and others sensing it or reacting to it go way beyond just disease, but also has implications for the important role of pheromone and chemical communication and sensing between humans. There are studies showing that some people reject potential partners just because they don't smell right to them. "Chemosignaling" can affect attraction and mate choice, communicate with the hypothalamus, influence hormonal and brain processes. Not just sexuality, but gender identity might be affected. As if we didn't have enough strangeness in gender confusion in human civilization, what if these fundamental processes are also damaged to who knows what long term effect?
I was erroneously under the impression the J & J was not as prone to leading to ill health like Pfizer & Moderna because it didn’t lead to spike protein production. Glad to know that it does, but not happy for others who thought they were getting a safer shot!
All these shedding stories are really very alarming. This means that each individual is actually a constant transmitter, vector if you will, of toxic spike protein. The drug companies, DOD, and the Fauci/Collins NIH have thrust the whole world into bioweapons territory through shoddy virus research and pseudo mRNA injectable products. This entire mRNA platform is suspect and very hazardous to the health of humanity. It’s hard to believe that everyday physicians cannot acknowledge the shedding stories of their patients or see the myriad of devastating side effects from these “vaccines”. We’re in bigger trouble than I ever suspected. I know the pharmacy dictum that “all drugs are dangerous”. But we are in uncharted territory where you have an entire US medical complex that refuses to recognize any serious side effects from these mRNA injections. It’s comforting to know that folks like the FLCCC are around to help, but we’re only at the beginning of more really horrible products coming from Big Pharma. And the FDA, CDC, NIH, and HHS are only too willing to facilitate the approval of future ‘high biotech’ drugs. This is a real horror story still unfolding in real time, but it’s not Hollywood.
I developed severe herpes cold sores on my lips for 6 months - after being in close contact with someone who was severely impacted by her 2nd Moderna shot (high fevers, vomiting and bedridden for 5 days) The only way the cold sores went away was with Valcyclovir for 3 months. When I’m in contact with boosted people, I again get the résistent cold sores, requiring me to take the med again. I now have a medication I have to list on my medical records. I was medication free before that! I’m a physical therapist in close contact with clients (I do CranioSacral therapy so am treating their heads a lot), I have everyone wait 3-4 weeks after any shots now before seeing me. It’s better now.
I am not vaccinated and I have never been tested positive for covid.
I did however, have what I think might have been a strain of covid somewhere around 2011 where I was sick for about 3 days. Maybe I got immunity during that time.
Very interesting topic. during 2021 and part of 2022 I have been mostly on the carnivore diet. I have had times where I had chronic diarrhea. It started in summer of 2021 and lasted sporadically a day or two here and there not every week or month but sporadically until about 2022 and have not really had issues since then.
I thought I was allergic to the wood chips from the Trager grill so I sold my grill. Then it kept happening. I thought maybe it was bad meat and maybe it was sometimes but it could not have been most of the time.
When I would take Ivermectin it seemed to not happen.
Unless the covid or something bad got into the meat, however, I only eat the finest meats from Whole Foods or small farms so not likely.
I did move into an apartment complex in 2020 and I am thinking that many people got vaccinated and the spike gets transmitted via the vents.
I did get Ivermectin and I think this helped.
Another event is I helped a friend of mine move some furniture for about 4 hours about a week after she got vaccinated with the Pfizer shot in order to keep her medical job.
After I got home from helping her I was talking to my sister and somehow I had her check her blood pressure and then I checked mine. I was shocked that my blood pressure was like 150/100!
It has never been that high in my entire life. It is normally 125/80
If I sat down and controlled my breathing, it lowered really quickly back to normal within a few minutes.
So after the next day it went to normal and it never ever measured like that afterwards.
I figured I picked up a little spike from my friend with the medical job from being in the same room and driving in the same car and being in that type of close contact (nothing intimate just normal friend contact).
So I think just for the heck of it I might start taking Nattokinase.
I am not experiencing issues now, but who knows, maybe there are still issues just much more minor and Nattokinase might make a difference in overall energy and other things.
After all, spike will probably always be here.
My mom is also not vaccinated and I think she takes Nattokinase normally and she didn't have any issues so maybe that was a help or maybe I am just sensitive.
I think some of the diarrhea was a result of being on the carnivore diet and getting used to it, but I don't think it was all that I think some of it was probably related to spike shedding.
I developed psoriasis in the week after my husband received his injection. I also had COVID after coming into contact with my force-vaccinated enlisted son-in-law, after which I developed heart issues (which have since calmed significantly).
Does the mRNA instructions get transmitted along with the spike protein during intercourse? As I am already, clearly, battling the results of the spike protein, can resuming intercourse do any further harm?
WOW!! We don’t need ‘studies’ to know what patient based medicine is telling us.
I’ve always been a critical thinker, but now I just don’t believe a single thing from any government agency anywhere.
I love my PCP, but I direct my health, not him. We’re the CEOs of our own health and no one else!
In terms of crowds... I too have experienced this many times. I feel unwell with flu like symptoms and can smell a unique ordour around people. After feeling this way and smelling the same ordour several times in company with family and friends, I confirmed the correlation with the covid vaccination. As it transpired each has been vaccinated within the previous week. I am very sensitive to meds and in general and I swear I can smell something so now I ask and yep the link is there!
Agree on the smell. Subtle like a pheromone.
I am grateful to you literally every day! You are truly a hero of our times!
You are doing another great service to humanity yet again by covering this important and high strange medical topic. It will be valuable to carefully study the details of people's stories in order to understand the process better, and to figure out how to prevent it or nip its effects early. I hope your Substack becomes a good archive for these.
I first understood about shedding after our dog Spartacus received vaccines, particularly the rabies shot. Not only did he become neurologically different and have a couple of seizures, but I got ill for a few weeks. Malaise, lower back pain, horrible sleep. So l looked it up in PubMed and realized it was a real phenomenon. You don't need mRNA type shots. It is just that the risk to humans is likely shorter term.
I agree with your case history writers that I could do far better than chance in identifying recently vaccinated persons by just being a few feet from them while they are breathing for a minute or two. So let's do an experiment? Cultivate a sample of self-reported sensitives and see if they can tell. Time since vaccines and types of shots, particularly the toxic lots, would have to be recorded and analyzed to see if there is a sensitivity drop off by time or variation by type or lot. I would bet that would be easy to crowd fund. It also seems like a quirky thing Steve Kirsch might fund. Try to think of objective measures to throw into the mix to try to quantify or characterize what people are sensing. Like saliva and semen samples. Maybe menstrual flow samples. Would be happy to donate my research skills to a study group.
I agree with the letter writer that the phenomenon is less strong in the elderly. I figured this out being around my 86 y.o. stepdad, who moved in with us last year. He is now 2-3/4 years from last Moderna shot. He had eye bleeds within 6-8 weeks and rashes on legs and trunk post shot. Used oral ivermectin/pepcid/quercetin/zinc/aspirin/colchicine/topical ivermectin on skin with him and rashes were gone after a few months but the eye edema has to be treated with ongoing avastin shots which are successful enough. Whatever he was shedding seemed to wane in my perception concurrently as his rashes also subsided and he felt better. He got one of the toxic lots 011L20A so I have been monitoring his health carefully since learning that.
The worst case in my home of perceived shedding was when a friend of my husband's dropped by to leave items in storage while in the middle of a move, so there was physical activity going up and down stairs. I felt queasy around him and wondered why, as if he had some horrible after shave that I couldn't quite smell but was faintly chemical. He was getting ready for an international trip so mentioned he had just gotten his booster. I was amazed as I realized how the shedding might just be real, and alarmed at how easy to detect and spread.
My brother is two shots Pfizer with a highly toxic lot for his first shot EN6205. I detect this same faint smell and queasy sensation when being too near him when he visits me. He is a pilot and must be around vaccinated constantly. The smell was left behind on the sheets he slept on. We talk about this freely, so I asked him on a subsequent visit to go completely fragrance free with his hygiene routine. Still same smell permeated the room and sheets. He has seen one of our favorite FLCCC affiliated docs for help through telehealth for symptoms that could be post COVID he got after vaccination or post shot. Mainly stamina, fatigue, sleep. He always feels better after a few days of ivermectin.
The worst place in public thus far was standing in line at a pharmacy where they also have a vaccine clinic just a few feet away. Last visit was waiting for a prescription during the latest flu/booster wave at Kroger. I started feeling sick in the middle of the night, did the gargling and nose cleaning routine. It started with a tonsil (I still have mine) feeling like it was being stabbed with a strong pinprick of something caustic, and I woke up coughing, a lot. The next morning same focal pin prick feeling in one nostril, so gargle and nose cleanse again and full start of FLCCC protocol with IVM and items from other protocols like colchicine. I use the black cumin seed as drops and add those to the gargle mix. I have ivermectin face cream for rosacea (Soolantra) so I slathered that on especially around nostrils. Not sure if it was going to be regular respiratory illness or something else. I had a sore throat, was fatigued, warm skin like it was a bit inflamed but no fever. Light headache. Gone in two days. Notably, husband starting feeling sick within 8 hours of my first symptoms, same thing. He had not been out of the house for a week other than dog walking. Same FLCCC routine, gone in two days. Shedding? Vaccine evaporation in air at the clinic? Or did we catch a bona fide dose of virus? I go through the drive through for pharmacy products now.
My heart goes out to those with serious contact and consequences. Excessive menstrual bleeding can be more than miserable and medically dangerous. Shameful of the media to trivialize this. Abnormal bleeding especially post menopause triggers an alert for cancer and all kinds of testing, expensive and invasive. What an absolute nightmare.
Betsy - your insights are excellent and rational, as is your suggestion for a study - would be super easy to do. Almost reminds me of a study published by a dog trainer in a medical journal of a beagle he had trained to detect clostridium difficile in the stool of hospital patients. The beagle was 100% accurate actually - funny part is I then wanted to get a beagle for my ICU because C. diff tests often took a day or two to come back in some hospitals. Funny part is that my ICU nurses and nursing assistants were all pretty good at predicting C. diff from the smell and I literally wanted to do that study! But never did, because, you know, not enough hours in the day.
Another interesting anecdote is I met and became friends with a woman at the D.C Defeat the Mandates Rally who had a condo cleaning business in Maui (she cleaned all the condos of vacationing tourists).I will never forget what she told me after the vaccination campaign began (you had to be vaccinated to visit Hawaii by the way):
1) When changing the sheets she noticed they all started having a faint yellow tint to them
2) She would for the first time feel ill after each work day, with sensory neuropathy symptoms of pins and needles/electric shock like feelings (I think also headaches and dizziness but I may be misremembering)
3) She noticed that when cleaning bathrooms, she had never before seen so much blood splatter/drops, very frequently (which is surprising as the vaccinated tend to be hypercoagulable so I am not sure what that is about - perhaps less steady hands or uncoordination with fine movements when shaving?
4) She ended up closing her business because it was making her sick and now she no longer does that kind of work.
Thank you for the reply.
Dogs could be easily trained no doubt, but we need the human study to hone in on the target--what is it people are sensing and smelling? In the human study we need a control group for the discrimination task--those who were never aware of the ability before. Can they spot the vaccinated too? In other words can nearly all humans be trained to identify it?
I am in amazement at the story of the sheets. I believe the condo cleaner. Sheets are a definitely a thing. You could collect these after a week of sleeping and use them for stimuli, test them for residue. Something about the sweating and oils from glands, hair follicles and so forth. So the person that I mentioned who had just been boosted: He had stayed in our place twice. You learn their habits from the first visit. The visit after the booster a few months later, very different bathroom habits. In a long time, many visits, went through a box of kleenex and a full roll of toilet paper in two days. Showers were unbelievably long. While in the house he needed to wash his hands after touching anything like petting the dog. Endless hand washing. Like he was trying to rid himself of something. Maybe he sensed or smelled it too. I know he has a good nose as a vinophile.
Could Betsy Ashton and the FLCCC gang host a call to discuss the shedding problem and some study ideas? Would love to brain storm with a group of interested parties. You could put out a notice on X and here and help you circulate the call for a study group.
If you recall, I met you in Indianapolis in 2021 and talked to you about helping David Scheim with a handful of studies, now published after two years of work. Several on ivermectin and its impact on COVID and on rouleaux state blood. I worked most directly on the Peru study which finally got past all the desk rejections once the censorship lifted on ivermectin somewhat as the round of shots had completed. I am up for another project.
The implications of shedding and others sensing it or reacting to it go way beyond just disease, but also has implications for the important role of pheromone and chemical communication and sensing between humans. There are studies showing that some people reject potential partners just because they don't smell right to them. "Chemosignaling" can affect attraction and mate choice, communicate with the hypothalamus, influence hormonal and brain processes. Not just sexuality, but gender identity might be affected. As if we didn't have enough strangeness in gender confusion in human civilization, what if these fundamental processes are also damaged to who knows what long term effect?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15653193/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34266600/
I was erroneously under the impression the J & J was not as prone to leading to ill health like Pfizer & Moderna because it didn’t lead to spike protein production. Glad to know that it does, but not happy for others who thought they were getting a safer shot!
Same here.
If I'm reading this correctly, it appears that the J&J adenovirus product does promote the same spike protein production.
But the J&J product does not have the additional issues and problems of the mRNA based products.
Not clear if the J&J product is at the same level of ferociousness as the mRNA products?
Does the combination of the mRNA tech plus the production of spike protein cause the most damage to body systems?
All these shedding stories are really very alarming. This means that each individual is actually a constant transmitter, vector if you will, of toxic spike protein. The drug companies, DOD, and the Fauci/Collins NIH have thrust the whole world into bioweapons territory through shoddy virus research and pseudo mRNA injectable products. This entire mRNA platform is suspect and very hazardous to the health of humanity. It’s hard to believe that everyday physicians cannot acknowledge the shedding stories of their patients or see the myriad of devastating side effects from these “vaccines”. We’re in bigger trouble than I ever suspected. I know the pharmacy dictum that “all drugs are dangerous”. But we are in uncharted territory where you have an entire US medical complex that refuses to recognize any serious side effects from these mRNA injections. It’s comforting to know that folks like the FLCCC are around to help, but we’re only at the beginning of more really horrible products coming from Big Pharma. And the FDA, CDC, NIH, and HHS are only too willing to facilitate the approval of future ‘high biotech’ drugs. This is a real horror story still unfolding in real time, but it’s not Hollywood.
I developed severe herpes cold sores on my lips for 6 months - after being in close contact with someone who was severely impacted by her 2nd Moderna shot (high fevers, vomiting and bedridden for 5 days) The only way the cold sores went away was with Valcyclovir for 3 months. When I’m in contact with boosted people, I again get the résistent cold sores, requiring me to take the med again. I now have a medication I have to list on my medical records. I was medication free before that! I’m a physical therapist in close contact with clients (I do CranioSacral therapy so am treating their heads a lot), I have everyone wait 3-4 weeks after any shots now before seeing me. It’s better now.
I am not vaccinated and I have never been tested positive for covid.
I did however, have what I think might have been a strain of covid somewhere around 2011 where I was sick for about 3 days. Maybe I got immunity during that time.
Very interesting topic. during 2021 and part of 2022 I have been mostly on the carnivore diet. I have had times where I had chronic diarrhea. It started in summer of 2021 and lasted sporadically a day or two here and there not every week or month but sporadically until about 2022 and have not really had issues since then.
I thought I was allergic to the wood chips from the Trager grill so I sold my grill. Then it kept happening. I thought maybe it was bad meat and maybe it was sometimes but it could not have been most of the time.
When I would take Ivermectin it seemed to not happen.
Unless the covid or something bad got into the meat, however, I only eat the finest meats from Whole Foods or small farms so not likely.
I did move into an apartment complex in 2020 and I am thinking that many people got vaccinated and the spike gets transmitted via the vents.
I did get Ivermectin and I think this helped.
Another event is I helped a friend of mine move some furniture for about 4 hours about a week after she got vaccinated with the Pfizer shot in order to keep her medical job.
After I got home from helping her I was talking to my sister and somehow I had her check her blood pressure and then I checked mine. I was shocked that my blood pressure was like 150/100!
It has never been that high in my entire life. It is normally 125/80
If I sat down and controlled my breathing, it lowered really quickly back to normal within a few minutes.
So after the next day it went to normal and it never ever measured like that afterwards.
I figured I picked up a little spike from my friend with the medical job from being in the same room and driving in the same car and being in that type of close contact (nothing intimate just normal friend contact).
So I think just for the heck of it I might start taking Nattokinase.
I am not experiencing issues now, but who knows, maybe there are still issues just much more minor and Nattokinase might make a difference in overall energy and other things.
After all, spike will probably always be here.
My mom is also not vaccinated and I think she takes Nattokinase normally and she didn't have any issues so maybe that was a help or maybe I am just sensitive.
I think some of the diarrhea was a result of being on the carnivore diet and getting used to it, but I don't think it was all that I think some of it was probably related to spike shedding.
I developed psoriasis in the week after my husband received his injection. I also had COVID after coming into contact with my force-vaccinated enlisted son-in-law, after which I developed heart issues (which have since calmed significantly).
Does the mRNA instructions get transmitted along with the spike protein during intercourse? As I am already, clearly, battling the results of the spike protein, can resuming intercourse do any further harm?