Years ago, while doing an ICU Quality Improvement Project, I stumbled upon a method to quantitatively assess the life-saving skills of a group of ICU doctors. The amount they varied was shocking.
It would help to get the Woke out of medicine (and in most other Institutions that society relies on). When my mother developed cancer recently, I spent a lot of time in the major hospital in my city, in cancer ward, in ICU. I was shocked, while there are compassionate and caring staff, there is also a lot of incredibly useless and uncaring and frankly dumb staff (nurses and doctors), gossiping, playing on their phones, not really taking the job seriously (nurses in ICU)!
The cancer went so fast, and when I realized all the doctors, oncologists, etc who popped in each day unannounced, saying they're working on this or that, a new test to determine what treatment do to, "oh don't worry, mom will be an out-patient soon, this is treatable" When the Feminist doctor came in, and basically said after all this and that, "we're not going to do any treatment, mom is too weak." I questioned them, begging to do something, an alternative treatment, when I said Ivermectin. The feminist doctor was so clearly focussed on what a strong women she was, talking down to me, lecturing me for questioning what they are doing (which was nothing). All she cared about was showing what a strong women she was. It broke my heart, what an awful system to allow this. In the end, they did nothing for mom expect give her super strong drugs to dull the pain. RIP to my beautiful and loving mom. You were smarter than all of them.
So sad to hear and yes, many current providers are poorly trained (even more so after Covid) and lack appropriate empathy, concern, and "meticulousness." I dont think it was always this way
I agree, today it feels always about profit, whereas perhaps it used to be about actually doing the job in front of us the best we could. As someone who had childhood cancer in the late '70's early '80's (and was given high doses of chemo, cranial radiation), all I remember is the love and compassion and caring I received. It seems to me, the knowledge may have been less back then, but the caring was more. Whereas today, it's money and efficiency and Virtue Signalling. BTW-this is in Canada. Thanks for your courage in sharing the truth during these last few years of tyranny.
Very sorry to hear this story. Heart breaking. Are you from the USA ? Occasional exceptions apart ( Dr. Shankara Chetty of South Africa), this seems to be story every where, here too in India, most of the time. Small clinics, one room doctors offices etc are all slowly giving way to corporate and industrial style hospitals, even for outpatient consultancies. The personal touch, concern is gone. If there was one profession where these were needed to be the bedrock, it must be medicine. Sadly missing. If you had known well about Ivermectin, did you not think about taking your mother away sooner and consult someone like Dr. Kory himself ? I am not a doctor, but with some common sense background, I used to be wondering how the emergency care drill is not just a standard SOP, but there must be elements in it, particularly medications, with respect to the disease of the emergency. This was in 2021 when people were unnecessarily dying in Covid in hospitals. For example, in Covid at that stage, it was certainly steroids, other immunotherapeutics, anti inflammatories, anti histamines etc, some combinations of them. They would have certainly mitigated the serious conditions. You cannot expect the duty doctors in emergency care to know a great deal about them, let alone put it to work. This was the responsibility of the senior doctors of the hospital to draw good protocols. I can support you and say that most of them were just coming and going.
The ICU dr who refused to treat my mom with Ivermectin, refused to allow me to be with her and informed me “the next time I saw my mom she’d be doing chest compressions” is still with the hospital despite my complaints to the board. After 5 days under her non-care my mom chose Hospice over a ventilator and passed with her family in the room. I’m praying one day she’s held accountable.
Thanks for the memories Dr Kory!…critical care RN (now retired)…first question I would ask coming on shift after my days off..who’s on this week?… makes all the difference!
Ooh. This is my favorite comment on this post by far. Spot on Elisabeth, you know EXACTLY what it is like each week in the ICU. At major academic medical centers, we "pure clinicians" used to privately and derisively make fun of our "lab rat" colleagues - the docs with major research funding and labs but fancied themselves "great doctors" at the bedside even though they did half as many service weeks as I did, year after year. Many were disasters but some were surprisingly and sometimes superlative clinicians so who knows..
We had two in my ICU (the clinical director, and the former clinical director) who even when they were on duty you only ever saw at the ward round. Having a really sick patient when they were on would have been pretty hairy and non-ideal, except that our super star intensivist was a complete workaholic and control freak who spent all day wandering around changing ventilator settings, prescribing new meds, just trying things, ordering tests and generally behaving as though he was the doctor on duty regardless of whether he was or not, god bless him (my fellow nurses and I certainly did).
Won’t you get all your certifications back under MAHA? One of the issues to be resolved is allowing doctors to be doctors to diagnose and treat with off label remedies. I think rounding up such doctors as yourself to correct unusual and lawfare type illegal disciplinary actions is a must. Our country is in danger losing specialists like you. Round’em up!! Present to RFK Jr. what happened to you snd others like you is not in our best interests. It is now just about time to fight back and to make those preparations now. The poor m, corrupt and illegal responses to Covid are now making their way through the courts.
I wish! The ABIM is a quasi-governmental organization under the "non-profit" quasi governmental organization called the FSMB which was created in 1913 (same year as Federal Reserve etc). I dont think MAHA can touch them
I think Trump snd many others want to do away with the FR. So maybe those orgs are in the same category. The FDA is currently in a self reorg- sounds to me that those need to be scrutinized too. I never heard of them so I hope you will speak up!! Maybe Dr Malone might have some insights?
Sounds like lawfare to me. That is one of the things that our new administration will be cleaning up.
Please round up other drs and present to Rand Paul snd RFK jr. It is not right. They intend to fix it. We all need our drs back doing their work. I think it could get fixed but need to show up and ask. Make the case.
Thank you. We need more Doctors like you. Join RFK's team and make this a requirement of all doctors and it needs to accessible for patients to read before selecting a doctor. I just recently lost a friend to bladder cancer she thought it was a bladder infection Three doctors from three different practices told her she had a bladder infection and just gave her different antibiotics. She was so frustrated and in pain for a year. We have ways to vet businesses when we buy a car, a house or insurance but not doctors.
From all the experiences reported here by patients or their wards, it is clear that we need the day to day working systems and attitudes of hospitals to become more user friendly, more caring, more professional, not to speak of affordability for a majority of the population. Neither Trump or RFK Jr have spoken anything about what they would do about these. There is not even a hint of what is in their mind, busy only kicking up the dust on vaccines, fluoride, FDA and the like. Please bank only on yourself to take care of yourself. Do you believe RFK Jr would be reading here about all your experiences ?
My husband went through many inpatient stays and several times in ICU. I had become accustomed to him being treated well enough to be discharged alive. Then that one hospitalist was put in charge of him in the CVICU and paid no attention to his actual symptoms. (This was pre-covid insanity) The issue was obvious to an EMT and a Paramedic, but not to this specialist.
After seven years, my youngest (EMT) is still hoping to see that doctor’s license removed
Nurses are as important as Doctors in hospital care.
Six years ago I had a G.I.Bleed and 911 Call brought me to a local University Teaching Hospital. I was transferred to the main location..after several blood transfusions..the medical teams were exceptional.
One nurse caught a pulmonary embolism situation and X-rays confirmed her observation.
Prayers I requested from students in training as well as a janitor were answered.
I will never forget the kindness and love from the dedicated teams at 2 Hospitals, Physical Therapy Rehab, Nursing home.
Thank you Christoph! I'm not surprised to see that the skill of listening leads to higher ratings here. Proves that a human connection and respecting one another is the best medicine, no?
Yes, that is a big part of it. I didn't directly ask for respect but it makes sense to say that the doctor is respectful of the patient by fully listening and the patient is then more respectful of the doctor, giving them higher marks for not just communication but also for knowledge and other positive characteristics.
I'm a leukemia patient and would like to share Paul Marik's work with my doctor regarding sepsis. (I'm likely to get it during my next bone marrow transplant in a couple of weeks.)
1. Please give me a link to the peer reviewed medical article that published Dr. Marik's IV vitamin C sepsis protocol. I think it was in CHEST. (It had been rejected by many others before.)
2. Is his current protocol SEPSIS CARE A Guide to Inpatient and Outpatient Treatment September 2023? (available on the FLCCC.net website)
As an introduction to my doctor, please help me with the right words for this statement: Paul Marik, MD is the most published ICU surgeon in the world. His sepsis protocol decreased the mortality rate by a factor of four (??).
Park my friend, IV Vitamin C, like ivermectin, both were victims of Big Pharma Disinformation campaigns such that few medical centers will allow or offer it, just like ivermectin. They published several large studies showing IV vitamin C "doesnt work" (yeah right) which has discredited all of Paul's work. Even if you are armed with Pauls study, they will pull 5 larger "higher quality" (yeah right) studies showing it doesn't work. If you have to rely on a hospital to give you IV vitamin C, you are in serious trouble because you will fail. I would look into antimicrobial therapies that you dont have to depend on anyone else for like chlorine dioxide (theuniversalantidote.com)
If you have a naturopathic doc in your area, he or she might offer IV C treatments. My naturopath (I’m in Las Vegas) offers them, and also treats cancer patients. You could also try an online search to see what’s available in your area.
I have been a bedside ICU RN for 25 years now and I can’t thank you enough for taking the time and opportunity to highlight how important this is. Our Critical Care physicians will determine the best possible outcome for our patients or the worst possible outcome. Even your average nurse can appreciate how important it is to have a top notch Critical Care Physician running the show. When the nurses start to question the Critical Care physicians orders and train of thought, you know the best outcome for your patient is now in question. When I come on shift for the night, my first question always is.. “who is the Critical Care physician covering the shift”. When the nurses moan at the name of the physician covering, you know we are privately saying a prayer for the patient and for the physician to make the right decisions.
It would help to get the Woke out of medicine (and in most other Institutions that society relies on). When my mother developed cancer recently, I spent a lot of time in the major hospital in my city, in cancer ward, in ICU. I was shocked, while there are compassionate and caring staff, there is also a lot of incredibly useless and uncaring and frankly dumb staff (nurses and doctors), gossiping, playing on their phones, not really taking the job seriously (nurses in ICU)!
The cancer went so fast, and when I realized all the doctors, oncologists, etc who popped in each day unannounced, saying they're working on this or that, a new test to determine what treatment do to, "oh don't worry, mom will be an out-patient soon, this is treatable" When the Feminist doctor came in, and basically said after all this and that, "we're not going to do any treatment, mom is too weak." I questioned them, begging to do something, an alternative treatment, when I said Ivermectin. The feminist doctor was so clearly focussed on what a strong women she was, talking down to me, lecturing me for questioning what they are doing (which was nothing). All she cared about was showing what a strong women she was. It broke my heart, what an awful system to allow this. In the end, they did nothing for mom expect give her super strong drugs to dull the pain. RIP to my beautiful and loving mom. You were smarter than all of them.
So sad to hear and yes, many current providers are poorly trained (even more so after Covid) and lack appropriate empathy, concern, and "meticulousness." I dont think it was always this way
I agree, today it feels always about profit, whereas perhaps it used to be about actually doing the job in front of us the best we could. As someone who had childhood cancer in the late '70's early '80's (and was given high doses of chemo, cranial radiation), all I remember is the love and compassion and caring I received. It seems to me, the knowledge may have been less back then, but the caring was more. Whereas today, it's money and efficiency and Virtue Signalling. BTW-this is in Canada. Thanks for your courage in sharing the truth during these last few years of tyranny.
Meticulousness. How I mourn its demise.
Applicable to so many professions.
Very sorry to hear this story. Heart breaking. Are you from the USA ? Occasional exceptions apart ( Dr. Shankara Chetty of South Africa), this seems to be story every where, here too in India, most of the time. Small clinics, one room doctors offices etc are all slowly giving way to corporate and industrial style hospitals, even for outpatient consultancies. The personal touch, concern is gone. If there was one profession where these were needed to be the bedrock, it must be medicine. Sadly missing. If you had known well about Ivermectin, did you not think about taking your mother away sooner and consult someone like Dr. Kory himself ? I am not a doctor, but with some common sense background, I used to be wondering how the emergency care drill is not just a standard SOP, but there must be elements in it, particularly medications, with respect to the disease of the emergency. This was in 2021 when people were unnecessarily dying in Covid in hospitals. For example, in Covid at that stage, it was certainly steroids, other immunotherapeutics, anti inflammatories, anti histamines etc, some combinations of them. They would have certainly mitigated the serious conditions. You cannot expect the duty doctors in emergency care to know a great deal about them, let alone put it to work. This was the responsibility of the senior doctors of the hospital to draw good protocols. I can support you and say that most of them were just coming and going.
The ICU dr who refused to treat my mom with Ivermectin, refused to allow me to be with her and informed me “the next time I saw my mom she’d be doing chest compressions” is still with the hospital despite my complaints to the board. After 5 days under her non-care my mom chose Hospice over a ventilator and passed with her family in the room. I’m praying one day she’s held accountable.
I feel you. So sad.
Thanks for the memories Dr Kory!…critical care RN (now retired)…first question I would ask coming on shift after my days off..who’s on this week?… makes all the difference!
Ooh. This is my favorite comment on this post by far. Spot on Elisabeth, you know EXACTLY what it is like each week in the ICU. At major academic medical centers, we "pure clinicians" used to privately and derisively make fun of our "lab rat" colleagues - the docs with major research funding and labs but fancied themselves "great doctors" at the bedside even though they did half as many service weeks as I did, year after year. Many were disasters but some were surprisingly and sometimes superlative clinicians so who knows..
We had two in my ICU (the clinical director, and the former clinical director) who even when they were on duty you only ever saw at the ward round. Having a really sick patient when they were on would have been pretty hairy and non-ideal, except that our super star intensivist was a complete workaholic and control freak who spent all day wandering around changing ventilator settings, prescribing new meds, just trying things, ordering tests and generally behaving as though he was the doctor on duty regardless of whether he was or not, god bless him (my fellow nurses and I certainly did).
Won’t you get all your certifications back under MAHA? One of the issues to be resolved is allowing doctors to be doctors to diagnose and treat with off label remedies. I think rounding up such doctors as yourself to correct unusual and lawfare type illegal disciplinary actions is a must. Our country is in danger losing specialists like you. Round’em up!! Present to RFK Jr. what happened to you snd others like you is not in our best interests. It is now just about time to fight back and to make those preparations now. The poor m, corrupt and illegal responses to Covid are now making their way through the courts.
I wish! The ABIM is a quasi-governmental organization under the "non-profit" quasi governmental organization called the FSMB which was created in 1913 (same year as Federal Reserve etc). I dont think MAHA can touch them
I think Trump snd many others want to do away with the FR. So maybe those orgs are in the same category. The FDA is currently in a self reorg- sounds to me that those need to be scrutinized too. I never heard of them so I hope you will speak up!! Maybe Dr Malone might have some insights?
MAHA & MAGA are cleaning the swamp.
Sounds like lawfare to me. That is one of the things that our new administration will be cleaning up.
Please round up other drs and present to Rand Paul snd RFK jr. It is not right. They intend to fix it. We all need our drs back doing their work. I think it could get fixed but need to show up and ask. Make the case.
Thank you. We need more Doctors like you. Join RFK's team and make this a requirement of all doctors and it needs to accessible for patients to read before selecting a doctor. I just recently lost a friend to bladder cancer she thought it was a bladder infection Three doctors from three different practices told her she had a bladder infection and just gave her different antibiotics. She was so frustrated and in pain for a year. We have ways to vet businesses when we buy a car, a house or insurance but not doctors.
From all the experiences reported here by patients or their wards, it is clear that we need the day to day working systems and attitudes of hospitals to become more user friendly, more caring, more professional, not to speak of affordability for a majority of the population. Neither Trump or RFK Jr have spoken anything about what they would do about these. There is not even a hint of what is in their mind, busy only kicking up the dust on vaccines, fluoride, FDA and the like. Please bank only on yourself to take care of yourself. Do you believe RFK Jr would be reading here about all your experiences ?
Very good, thank you.
My husband went through many inpatient stays and several times in ICU. I had become accustomed to him being treated well enough to be discharged alive. Then that one hospitalist was put in charge of him in the CVICU and paid no attention to his actual symptoms. (This was pre-covid insanity) The issue was obvious to an EMT and a Paramedic, but not to this specialist.
After seven years, my youngest (EMT) is still hoping to see that doctor’s license removed
Wow... real life example of the impacts of a poorly performing physician
Yes. It must be unbearable for those of you who know what you’re doing
So many factors would be involved, like the size of their paycheck, but I imagine that integrity would be the number one factor.
Nurses are as important as Doctors in hospital care.
Six years ago I had a G.I.Bleed and 911 Call brought me to a local University Teaching Hospital. I was transferred to the main location..after several blood transfusions..the medical teams were exceptional.
One nurse caught a pulmonary embolism situation and X-rays confirmed her observation.
Prayers I requested from students in training as well as a janitor were answered.
I will never forget the kindness and love from the dedicated teams at 2 Hospitals, Physical Therapy Rehab, Nursing home.
God bless them all .
Since so many have now taken the COVID injections, I’m praying I never need an emergency blood transfusion.
Is there a decent website with reviews of doctors by patients?
Yes, lots but this Norwegian study shows that doctors ratings and their actual performance are not or very little related:
https://www.cesifo.org/en/publications/2022/working-paper/does-your-doctor-matter-doctor-quality-and-patient-outcomes
The one thing that makes patients' ratings shoot up is if doctors willingly listen to the end as discussed here: https://www.cell.com/heliyon/fulltext/S2405-8440(23)00322-5
Thank you Christoph! I'm not surprised to see that the skill of listening leads to higher ratings here. Proves that a human connection and respecting one another is the best medicine, no?
Yes, that is a big part of it. I didn't directly ask for respect but it makes sense to say that the doctor is respectful of the patient by fully listening and the patient is then more respectful of the doctor, giving them higher marks for not just communication but also for knowledge and other positive characteristics.
Can I please give you my late husband’s icu team/dr to see what was says abt them?
You didn’t mention mortality rates among the study group. How did the least test orderer fair against the most?
Click on the link with his article on results.
How bout US News Hospital rankings?? What a load of BS. How much do the hospitals pay to be on the list?? There’re not many small hospitals on it
This paper needs to be brought to the attention of RFK Jnr for further expediting into the system.
Well done Dr. K. It's a privilage to read about your work. Had it not been for Covid, many of
us would not have known about you or your mighty efforts. Best Regards
Off topic help needed...
I'm a leukemia patient and would like to share Paul Marik's work with my doctor regarding sepsis. (I'm likely to get it during my next bone marrow transplant in a couple of weeks.)
1. Please give me a link to the peer reviewed medical article that published Dr. Marik's IV vitamin C sepsis protocol. I think it was in CHEST. (It had been rejected by many others before.)
2. Is his current protocol SEPSIS CARE A Guide to Inpatient and Outpatient Treatment September 2023? (available on the FLCCC.net website)
As an introduction to my doctor, please help me with the right words for this statement: Paul Marik, MD is the most published ICU surgeon in the world. His sepsis protocol decreased the mortality rate by a factor of four (??).
Thanks in advance,
Park Burrets
Park my friend, IV Vitamin C, like ivermectin, both were victims of Big Pharma Disinformation campaigns such that few medical centers will allow or offer it, just like ivermectin. They published several large studies showing IV vitamin C "doesnt work" (yeah right) which has discredited all of Paul's work. Even if you are armed with Pauls study, they will pull 5 larger "higher quality" (yeah right) studies showing it doesn't work. If you have to rely on a hospital to give you IV vitamin C, you are in serious trouble because you will fail. I would look into antimicrobial therapies that you dont have to depend on anyone else for like chlorine dioxide (theuniversalantidote.com)
I think a naturopath MD that gives B12 IVs and injections would give Vit C ones, no?
If you have a naturopathic doc in your area, he or she might offer IV C treatments. My naturopath (I’m in Las Vegas) offers them, and also treats cancer patients. You could also try an online search to see what’s available in your area.
I have been a bedside ICU RN for 25 years now and I can’t thank you enough for taking the time and opportunity to highlight how important this is. Our Critical Care physicians will determine the best possible outcome for our patients or the worst possible outcome. Even your average nurse can appreciate how important it is to have a top notch Critical Care Physician running the show. When the nurses start to question the Critical Care physicians orders and train of thought, you know the best outcome for your patient is now in question. When I come on shift for the night, my first question always is.. “who is the Critical Care physician covering the shift”. When the nurses moan at the name of the physician covering, you know we are privately saying a prayer for the patient and for the physician to make the right decisions.