Here I explore the nuances around the use of mechanical ventilation in 2020. It is not a simple story, contrary to many like Elon Musk that believe "the ventilators killed patients."
Is it not conceivable that the same top-down policies that destroyed your and Dr Merick's abilities to treat patients and save lives also lead to hospitals abandoning their patient-first policies to instead depend solely on dictates from on-high out of safety for their actual customers, their shareholders? How many hospitals *still* treat Covid patients with remdesivir? While you were honest, stuck to your guns and would not bow to pressure, why do you believe the rest of the medical industry did not toe the line and just do what they were told fearing the destruction of their careers and thus their ability to help patients from within the broken system? Could your honesty be blinding you?
First of all, a thousand "thank you"s to you and your colleagues for all the work done that has clearly saved hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of people who listened to you, FLCCC, and the wonderful protocols that have guided health care professionals as well as lay people trying to navigate a dangerous and previously unknown threat to their lives.
What I wish to convey, is that your wonderfully sophisticated and precise analysis of the ins and outs of respiratory treatment for these patients, as thorough as it is, fails to recognize what most people who work within healthcare find very hard to believe: there are some who intend harm, intentionally and have done so surreptitiously "under the radar" and either used treatments that actively harmed patients, removed treatments or medications that were already helping patients, or withheld treatments that would have helped patients. This is stealth euthanasia and has been revealed to occur within the health care system.
The history of medicine in the US and elsewhere is not without its dark episodes and the past few years is one of the worst. Tuskegee syphilis experiment being just a prominent example of how "Nazi-like" U.S. physicians and public health departments can be. The Euthanasia society of America never stopped trying to influence American health care and some of it went into open, overt promotion of euthanasia and later assisted suicide. The other part went into disguise, covert promotion of undeclared medical killing, unrecorded, with falsified medical and nursing notes of what was done and why.
Perhaps you are not so naive as many. Perhaps it is not easy for a physician to openly speak out about such undeclared stealth euthanasia practices, but with COVID hospital treatment, there were many whistleblowers who indicated they saw how UN-trained nurses and UN-trained doctors were placed in units that were treating COVID patients Untrained nurses managing ventilators who were not accustomed to suctioning patients. Ventilators placed without a respiratory therapist adjusting the volumes, the type and length of hoses, and ventilator MODE settings that are unique for each patient's needs (as you know best, and who nurses like myself know since working with ventilator patients for decades).
There were patients on dialysis, for example, who had UNtrained nurses running dialysis. All these switching of staff where they were untrained was done at the behest of administrators who told those who objected, those who were expert in these areas, to shut up or be terminated. When doctors stood up to administration, they were shut down.
You are right that the proper medication treatments were not used, but there are other methods used to impose death, and there is no other conclusion that makes any logical sense when everything done was 100% in error, 100% of the time. By chance, one can make mistakes. But virtually everything done in the name of helping patients, was in effect harmful to the patients.
Giving Remdesivir known to be toxic and withholding helpful medications (Chloroquine for example) that were clearly known to be helpful (from SARS and MERS decades earlier), and refusing to use medications that were being successfully used in some areas and creating studies using obviously inappropriate dosing to declare these useful medications "dangerous" ... even when they're listed on the W.H.O.'s list of safe and effective medications to be used by all nations ... obviously a nefarious intent was at work, and still is.
We must recognize that stealth euthanasia is practiced widely. The full-length book (in e-book pdf form) explaining all of this is posted online for download at the Healthcare Advocacy and Leadership Organization website at
It is time for the truth to come out and for us to be unafraid to communicate the truth about what we are facing, whether as nurses, doctors, or patients.
Again, a thousand thanks for all you have done to save so many!! May God bless you and help you continue your work!
Well argued with very solid rationale based on your vast experience. I knew I bought the FLCCC beach towel of you as a super hero, cape and all, to show off at the club for a darn good reason! Thank you for being the professional you are. Thank you for taking the daggers you and Paul have for the sake of humanity and good medicine. I sometimes wonder if either of you really grasp the importance of your deeds and your place in history. You didn’t do it to be heroes but you really are. Thank you!
Since I have no medical training and rely on media to educate on the subject, the belief of “financial incentive” made perfect sense, up til now. I see a different perspective here, thanks to a view from an expert on the front lines. I guess I would still ask….”Was there an incentive in place to intubate?” If so, then maybe there are so many decisions that could affect the outcome of treatment, no one can know all of the facets that went into all of these decisions. The “old guard” has of course been replaced by the youth. Looking at the schools, what their objectives are, and what has been left out of the system when it comes to education, and knowing that the “protocols” don’t look at the patient individually as practiced in my day, the results are what they are. What a doctor means in this era of medicine is a big pharma tool and the Dr. Korys are out there, but it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Dr. Kory…… If you build it, they will come….your new practice with doctors of like minds…praying for you!!! Thanks again for your professional, expert, and mostly common sensical approach to medicine! It is a dying art…
During Pandemic one factor that most are not aware is that the CDC/Medicare paid out $40.000 to the hospital for every patient put on a ventilator. This financial incentive open the doors for corruption and over use of ventilators.
The logical way to determine if the profit motive was a factor in intubation would be to compare an NHS (UK) teaching hospital with a fee-for-profit institution in say Germany or the USA. (and compare with similar caseloads).
I recall once reading that your chance of having your appendix removed surgically was ten times higher in Germany than the UK ;-)
Thank you so much for offering such a wonderful explanation of ventilation procedures and concerns. I am not a medical person, but could easily understand what you wrote and feel I can now hold my own in a discussion. I am so grateful your knowledge and experience is being utilized to educate me and others. The losses you experienced from Covid have resulted in my own growth. Please know how much you and what you write are appreciated.
From what I gathered, patients were given 13 injectable drugs as well as being intubated and ventilated and those drugs included fentanyl and propofol. In addition, some were questioning why a lot of the survivors had to go on dialysis.
I respect you and have all along. You keep saying it was a “Novel” virus. Well what if it wasn’t? Of course the fear created the response. Please any of you that have the time to study.....Gigaohmbiological.com. Tell me what you think.
You may think it absurd, but hospitals DID kill patients for money. Why did they continue to use protocols that killed people and ignore treatments that saved people?
Only an expert vent geek could explain such a complex process so well. I must admit, I did not read everything in this post, but after losing my Dad on a vent many years ago before Covid and a cousin on a vent during Covid, I’ve been wondering about the technology as treatment.
You wrote: “Prior to Covid ever happening, most if not all patients who died in the hospital did so on a ventilator …”
I have NO medical expertise, but I’m wondering whether using ventilators as treatment before Covid (when most patients died on them) and during / after Covid should be replaced by something else. Of course, early treatment is the BEST treatment. But maybe we need a better tool for LATE treatment.
Not being a geek of any kind, I cannot suggest something better, I can only ask.
FLCCC’s team has done amazing out-of-the-box work with Covid and Covid Vax, Diabetes, Cancer, Sepsis, and more. Perhaps the same thought processes also could apply to ventilators. Could ventilators be a tool that belongs in an older toolbox?
For another take on hospital treatments, including ventilators, see Sasha Latypova’s posts here:
Dr. Kory sort of lost a lot of his credibility making his case that the vast majority of his Dr. peers were not just taking the money / bonuses while looking the other way.
The general image of ventilation at the covid time when it was in vogue was that (i) it was a last chance ticket, (ii) with practically 100% chance to die, (iii) applied without even considering the human nature of the patient, (iv) serving as a cart blanche to isolate the patient from the family, which all essentially gave the hospital an extremely highly paid training ground with zero expectation of procedure success. In high-stress media and politics boiling ground, it was never properly discussed, or even briefly presented to everybody (newspapers, CDC pages, email campaigns to millions of free accounts, online “alt” activists, etc). Except when terror was needed - I once read an interview in MSM with a decorated professor who boasted that he had 96% kill rate on ventilators repeatedly.
Whether the practice is medically beneficial (and at what condition of the patient) is a different story. Obviously, it may be when the setting leaves no alternative. The practice as such may be. What about the human factor? How many doctors in the field have been properly trained to order and supervise it? How many have been trained to properly run the eligibility criteria? How many of them have been instructed to discuss ventilation with other doctors on a case-to-case basis - considering its poor statistical outcome and complexity in the context of the patient? How many HCWs have been adequately trained to manage ventilation on a routine basis, as has been the case in 2020 till now?
I would expect (as a human being, with no medical factors taken into account) all failed ventilation cases must be subjected to special investigation. Serial dying of patients in one ward and with (or from) one procedure should rise eyebrows, and alarms, right? We have not heard about any such case. Not a single one. Quite the opposite, there were a number of confessions reporting the use of ventilation as a measure to get rid of patients for a $30k incentive. Since we don’t even see true statistics (intubated, dead, survived intubation, completely healed, etc.), we are left with yet another routine which has become a standard of practice despite lack of verifiable arguments for or against. Right along masks, lockdowns, or “preventive” cutting out of tonsils.
As a minimum, shouldn’t HC personnel be issued special licenses to work in the ventilation settings? License to “kill or survive” = immediate full liability for the outcome and the mandatory detailed reporting of each patient referred for ventilation. These people should be the elite of the elite, and respect for their dedication should surpass all other medical professions, being the measure of their courage and commitment. Human factors, much much more important than technical issues.
I get what you are saying. Yet it was the combination of Remdisivir with a failure to treat the inflammation in the lungs that ultimately lead to intubation and death. I met personally with Dr. Richard Bartlett. We talked for about 30 minutes as he was walking his grandfather through the Rehab center in Odessa. I was recovering from a motorcycle accident. He had 100% success treating with Budesonide with an inhaler even with patients with COPD, state 4 cancer, diabetes and obesity. There was damage caused to the lungs with the ventilators in many cases that radically inhibited recovery.
Is it not conceivable that the same top-down policies that destroyed your and Dr Merick's abilities to treat patients and save lives also lead to hospitals abandoning their patient-first policies to instead depend solely on dictates from on-high out of safety for their actual customers, their shareholders? How many hospitals *still* treat Covid patients with remdesivir? While you were honest, stuck to your guns and would not bow to pressure, why do you believe the rest of the medical industry did not toe the line and just do what they were told fearing the destruction of their careers and thus their ability to help patients from within the broken system? Could your honesty be blinding you?
Dear Dr Kory,
First of all, a thousand "thank you"s to you and your colleagues for all the work done that has clearly saved hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of people who listened to you, FLCCC, and the wonderful protocols that have guided health care professionals as well as lay people trying to navigate a dangerous and previously unknown threat to their lives.
What I wish to convey, is that your wonderfully sophisticated and precise analysis of the ins and outs of respiratory treatment for these patients, as thorough as it is, fails to recognize what most people who work within healthcare find very hard to believe: there are some who intend harm, intentionally and have done so surreptitiously "under the radar" and either used treatments that actively harmed patients, removed treatments or medications that were already helping patients, or withheld treatments that would have helped patients. This is stealth euthanasia and has been revealed to occur within the health care system.
The history of medicine in the US and elsewhere is not without its dark episodes and the past few years is one of the worst. Tuskegee syphilis experiment being just a prominent example of how "Nazi-like" U.S. physicians and public health departments can be. The Euthanasia society of America never stopped trying to influence American health care and some of it went into open, overt promotion of euthanasia and later assisted suicide. The other part went into disguise, covert promotion of undeclared medical killing, unrecorded, with falsified medical and nursing notes of what was done and why.
Perhaps you are not so naive as many. Perhaps it is not easy for a physician to openly speak out about such undeclared stealth euthanasia practices, but with COVID hospital treatment, there were many whistleblowers who indicated they saw how UN-trained nurses and UN-trained doctors were placed in units that were treating COVID patients Untrained nurses managing ventilators who were not accustomed to suctioning patients. Ventilators placed without a respiratory therapist adjusting the volumes, the type and length of hoses, and ventilator MODE settings that are unique for each patient's needs (as you know best, and who nurses like myself know since working with ventilator patients for decades).
There were patients on dialysis, for example, who had UNtrained nurses running dialysis. All these switching of staff where they were untrained was done at the behest of administrators who told those who objected, those who were expert in these areas, to shut up or be terminated. When doctors stood up to administration, they were shut down.
You are right that the proper medication treatments were not used, but there are other methods used to impose death, and there is no other conclusion that makes any logical sense when everything done was 100% in error, 100% of the time. By chance, one can make mistakes. But virtually everything done in the name of helping patients, was in effect harmful to the patients.
Giving Remdesivir known to be toxic and withholding helpful medications (Chloroquine for example) that were clearly known to be helpful (from SARS and MERS decades earlier), and refusing to use medications that were being successfully used in some areas and creating studies using obviously inappropriate dosing to declare these useful medications "dangerous" ... even when they're listed on the W.H.O.'s list of safe and effective medications to be used by all nations ... obviously a nefarious intent was at work, and still is.
We must recognize that stealth euthanasia is practiced widely. The full-length book (in e-book pdf form) explaining all of this is posted online for download at the Healthcare Advocacy and Leadership Organization website at
https://halovoice.org/wp-content/uploads/stealth-euthanasia-1-by-Ron-Panzer.pdf
It is time for the truth to come out and for us to be unafraid to communicate the truth about what we are facing, whether as nurses, doctors, or patients.
Again, a thousand thanks for all you have done to save so many!! May God bless you and help you continue your work!
Well argued with very solid rationale based on your vast experience. I knew I bought the FLCCC beach towel of you as a super hero, cape and all, to show off at the club for a darn good reason! Thank you for being the professional you are. Thank you for taking the daggers you and Paul have for the sake of humanity and good medicine. I sometimes wonder if either of you really grasp the importance of your deeds and your place in history. You didn’t do it to be heroes but you really are. Thank you!
Since I have no medical training and rely on media to educate on the subject, the belief of “financial incentive” made perfect sense, up til now. I see a different perspective here, thanks to a view from an expert on the front lines. I guess I would still ask….”Was there an incentive in place to intubate?” If so, then maybe there are so many decisions that could affect the outcome of treatment, no one can know all of the facets that went into all of these decisions. The “old guard” has of course been replaced by the youth. Looking at the schools, what their objectives are, and what has been left out of the system when it comes to education, and knowing that the “protocols” don’t look at the patient individually as practiced in my day, the results are what they are. What a doctor means in this era of medicine is a big pharma tool and the Dr. Korys are out there, but it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Dr. Kory…… If you build it, they will come….your new practice with doctors of like minds…praying for you!!! Thanks again for your professional, expert, and mostly common sensical approach to medicine! It is a dying art…
During Pandemic one factor that most are not aware is that the CDC/Medicare paid out $40.000 to the hospital for every patient put on a ventilator. This financial incentive open the doors for corruption and over use of ventilators.
The logical way to determine if the profit motive was a factor in intubation would be to compare an NHS (UK) teaching hospital with a fee-for-profit institution in say Germany or the USA. (and compare with similar caseloads).
I recall once reading that your chance of having your appendix removed surgically was ten times higher in Germany than the UK ;-)
Thank you so much for offering such a wonderful explanation of ventilation procedures and concerns. I am not a medical person, but could easily understand what you wrote and feel I can now hold my own in a discussion. I am so grateful your knowledge and experience is being utilized to educate me and others. The losses you experienced from Covid have resulted in my own growth. Please know how much you and what you write are appreciated.
From what I gathered, patients were given 13 injectable drugs as well as being intubated and ventilated and those drugs included fentanyl and propofol. In addition, some were questioning why a lot of the survivors had to go on dialysis.
I respect you and have all along. You keep saying it was a “Novel” virus. Well what if it wasn’t? Of course the fear created the response. Please any of you that have the time to study.....Gigaohmbiological.com. Tell me what you think.
🙏
You may think it absurd, but hospitals DID kill patients for money. Why did they continue to use protocols that killed people and ignore treatments that saved people?
Dear Dr. Kory,
Only an expert vent geek could explain such a complex process so well. I must admit, I did not read everything in this post, but after losing my Dad on a vent many years ago before Covid and a cousin on a vent during Covid, I’ve been wondering about the technology as treatment.
You wrote: “Prior to Covid ever happening, most if not all patients who died in the hospital did so on a ventilator …”
I have NO medical expertise, but I’m wondering whether using ventilators as treatment before Covid (when most patients died on them) and during / after Covid should be replaced by something else. Of course, early treatment is the BEST treatment. But maybe we need a better tool for LATE treatment.
Not being a geek of any kind, I cannot suggest something better, I can only ask.
FLCCC’s team has done amazing out-of-the-box work with Covid and Covid Vax, Diabetes, Cancer, Sepsis, and more. Perhaps the same thought processes also could apply to ventilators. Could ventilators be a tool that belongs in an older toolbox?
For another take on hospital treatments, including ventilators, see Sasha Latypova’s posts here:
* https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/intent-to-harm
* https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/chief-of-nuclear-chemical-and-biological
* https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/pandemic-preparedness-a-government
* https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/pandemic-preparedness-a-government
Again, I’m not judging, just asking questions.
Dr. Kory sort of lost a lot of his credibility making his case that the vast majority of his Dr. peers were not just taking the money / bonuses while looking the other way.
Despicable view & position vs known reality..
The general image of ventilation at the covid time when it was in vogue was that (i) it was a last chance ticket, (ii) with practically 100% chance to die, (iii) applied without even considering the human nature of the patient, (iv) serving as a cart blanche to isolate the patient from the family, which all essentially gave the hospital an extremely highly paid training ground with zero expectation of procedure success. In high-stress media and politics boiling ground, it was never properly discussed, or even briefly presented to everybody (newspapers, CDC pages, email campaigns to millions of free accounts, online “alt” activists, etc). Except when terror was needed - I once read an interview in MSM with a decorated professor who boasted that he had 96% kill rate on ventilators repeatedly.
Whether the practice is medically beneficial (and at what condition of the patient) is a different story. Obviously, it may be when the setting leaves no alternative. The practice as such may be. What about the human factor? How many doctors in the field have been properly trained to order and supervise it? How many have been trained to properly run the eligibility criteria? How many of them have been instructed to discuss ventilation with other doctors on a case-to-case basis - considering its poor statistical outcome and complexity in the context of the patient? How many HCWs have been adequately trained to manage ventilation on a routine basis, as has been the case in 2020 till now?
I would expect (as a human being, with no medical factors taken into account) all failed ventilation cases must be subjected to special investigation. Serial dying of patients in one ward and with (or from) one procedure should rise eyebrows, and alarms, right? We have not heard about any such case. Not a single one. Quite the opposite, there were a number of confessions reporting the use of ventilation as a measure to get rid of patients for a $30k incentive. Since we don’t even see true statistics (intubated, dead, survived intubation, completely healed, etc.), we are left with yet another routine which has become a standard of practice despite lack of verifiable arguments for or against. Right along masks, lockdowns, or “preventive” cutting out of tonsils.
As a minimum, shouldn’t HC personnel be issued special licenses to work in the ventilation settings? License to “kill or survive” = immediate full liability for the outcome and the mandatory detailed reporting of each patient referred for ventilation. These people should be the elite of the elite, and respect for their dedication should surpass all other medical professions, being the measure of their courage and commitment. Human factors, much much more important than technical issues.
I get what you are saying. Yet it was the combination of Remdisivir with a failure to treat the inflammation in the lungs that ultimately lead to intubation and death. I met personally with Dr. Richard Bartlett. We talked for about 30 minutes as he was walking his grandfather through the Rehab center in Odessa. I was recovering from a motorcycle accident. He had 100% success treating with Budesonide with an inhaler even with patients with COPD, state 4 cancer, diabetes and obesity. There was damage caused to the lungs with the ventilators in many cases that radically inhibited recovery.
Thank you for a great explanation of the factors involved. Very helpful for me.
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