Here I explore the nuances around the use of mechanical ventilation in 2020. It is not a simple story, contrary to many like Elon Musk that believe "the ventilators killed patients."
Is it not conceivable that the same top-down policies that destroyed your and Dr Merick's abilities to treat patients and save lives also lead to hospitals abandoning their patient-first policies to instead depend solely on dictates from on-high out of safety for their actual customers, their shareholders? How many hospitals *still* treat Covid patients with remdesivir? While you were honest, stuck to your guns and would not bow to pressure, why do you believe the rest of the medical industry did not toe the line and just do what they were told fearing the destruction of their careers and thus their ability to help patients from within the broken system? Could your honesty be blinding you?
I agree with your premise. The hospitalists who agreed to be responsible for, and direct (and presumably have even an inkling of Mechanical Ventilation Course I), respiratory decisions and procedures used in their hospitals' Covid ICUs and Covid wards, knew or should clearly have known better. Weren't the hospitalized patients past the infectious stage of viral diseases? I don't think Dr. Kory's honesty is blinding him, so much as that he is an optimist and finds it a bit difficult to realize the evil out there. I hope it's that, rather another reason, because we now know that hospital administers insisted that their hospitalists follow their orders to ventilate often, and early. The hospitalists who fought against and resisted those orders were dismissed, and other doctors were found who would implement "the procedures." Yes, mechanical ventilation costs are high, but in addition to reimburse of those typical costs, the hospitals received a substantial stipend over and above the typical costs for mechanical vents. There are very, very few doctors during the pandemic whom I would give a pass. Only those who stood up and told their patients, their families, and the world the truth, letting the chips fall where they may. The inappropriate procedures implemented "were not illegal?" By and large, these were not "mistakes in judgment." As an attorney, I'd sure try to hold some of these doctors liable for knowingly contributing to patient deaths. And, yet, Trump, with no medical knowledge, is criticized for not having consulted with more doctors? It would have made 100 times more sense to expect that the doctors treating people with Covid would consult with each other. And, disappointingly, they probably did.
Well they were all listening to Cuomo.......how many ventilators did they need to save everyone? It was already decided before a doctor even had a patient.
As both a retired Anesthesia Professional and a retired Attorney who spent several years as both a "chart expert" and on tap to be the "expert witness" in Medical Mal-Practice cases involving other Anesthesia Professionals, I have a slightly different view.
Before expressing that view, let me say my Anesthesia Career included hospitals that were Major Medical Centers/Teaching Hospitals and some were small rural hospitals. Over the course of some 32 years in Anesthesia I preformed, easily, well over 50,000 Intubations in all settings, Surgery, Obstetrics, ICU's of all types including NICU and CCU. I taught intubation to Anesthesia Trainees, Respiratory Therapy trainees, EMT trainees and Medical Residents in more than one Medical Specialty. I held both Academia and Clinical positions in Post Graduate Institutions.
The Covid-19 Fiasco involved a depth of lying, control and outright intimidation of people never before seen on a world wide basis. The nearest previous attempts by size being the Nazi Experiments on Concentration Camp Prisoners.
We had Illegal and Unconstitutional Mandates from politicians who have no training and expertise in any area remotely related to Infectious disease and treatment. We had State Boards of Pharmacy threatening to remove the license of Pharmacists who filled a valid Prescription for drugs such as Ivermectin written by Physicians who had more knowledge and experience in treating Infectious diseases that the Board of Pharmacy members and the Pharmacists on the front lines.
We had demented People with the "right" degrees, such as Anthony Fauci, Deborah, Birks, and many others whose names you should know who were "bought and paid for" by subhuman individuals such as Bill and Melinda Gates to push what we now know was a bio-weapon in stead of a vaccine.
We had politicians at the State and Federal level who were enthralled by their "power" who starting a few decades ago passed laws that were in direct violation with existing International Codes effective in the US that gave Health Care Providers the belief that they were protected from "liability" even if they coerced patients to take something with out telling them the bio-weapon touted as a vaccine was under EUA (emergency use authorization) meaning it was an experimental drug still under investigation and International Law, valid in the US, said the fact it was EUA, still under investigation meant no one, regardless of their inflated opinion of them selves, could force (i.e. mandate) that any human being take the jab. That included politicians, as well as various Medically related professions.
We had State Medical Boards and National Medical Specialty Boards pull Medical Licenses and Medical Specialty Certification from those Physicians who were saving lives of patients because they understood what was needed to save lives.
Now in the aftermath of the Covid Carnage we quibble about "when is the best time to intubate a patient and place them on a ventilator"!
Where are the Attorneys who understand the Nuremberg Code and have the guts to start prosecuting the multiple "Crimes Against Humanity" perpetrated in the last 3 years?
I stand proudly with Drs. Pierre Kory, Paul Merrick, Robert Malone, and others I know and revere for them putting their license on the line.
It is time for the "real" Attorneys to step up to the plate and clean house on the Scientists, Physicians Pharmacists, Medical and Pharmacy State Board members and Medical Specialty Board Members who crossed the line and people died because of it.
If I was 20 years younger, I'd be in the midst of the battle fighting for the rights of US Citizen's to have Medical Care without non-doctors, Medical and Specialty Board Members and Pharmacy Board Members controlling Physician's Care of their patients.
As always, there are instances where there is Mal-practice that the Attorney side of me understands need to be handled. But in Covid-19 there was rampant Political, Pharmacutical as well as Medical Mal-Practice at the highest levels that needs to be taken care of NOW!
Thank you it is nice to know that the summer I spent in Advanced Legal Writing taught by a crusty old retired Court of Appeals Judge must have been worth it.
I agree. I personally know three doctors - not epidemiologists, virologists, or vaccinologists, but GPs or specialists in non-related fields - who advised me and my family, including my children, unconditionally to get the jab. Just get it they said. When I asked them specific questions about risk/reward or possible side effects, they could only assert that the trials proved the vaccine was safe and effective. I have no reason to think they knew more than I did! This was a kind of mania that swept over nearly everyone, including our trusted medical professionals. "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." - Charles Mackay
# 1: The ACA Bill that had to be passed in order to find out what was in it, setup the foundation for these and many other protocols that the medical industrial complex uses to legally kill people with the assistance of the insurance companies.
# 2: Every practicing Doctor or Physician, takes a "Do No Harm," hippocratic oath, which is disregarded when it comes to many of the above in # 1, so the integruous ones become alternative health practicioners, being chased down and sued by the Medical Boards/Pharmu, and other gestapos/useful tools...
# 3: Due to the power of the fear and non-critical thinking propaganda, brainwashing, etc., the majority of the Health "Professionals" did not stand up in unified resistance, which was a critical fault of allowing the suppression of the Dr's like Pierre Kory and others from being able to get the word out and literally save lives - whether these "Professionals" were in fear for self-preservation of life-style, or really fell for the msm hype, comes in 2nd place to their broken oaths, both individually, and collectively, and there will be justice, someday...tick-tock!
First of all, a thousand "thank you"s to you and your colleagues for all the work done that has clearly saved hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of people who listened to you, FLCCC, and the wonderful protocols that have guided health care professionals as well as lay people trying to navigate a dangerous and previously unknown threat to their lives.
What I wish to convey, is that your wonderfully sophisticated and precise analysis of the ins and outs of respiratory treatment for these patients, as thorough as it is, fails to recognize what most people who work within healthcare find very hard to believe: there are some who intend harm, intentionally and have done so surreptitiously "under the radar" and either used treatments that actively harmed patients, removed treatments or medications that were already helping patients, or withheld treatments that would have helped patients. This is stealth euthanasia and has been revealed to occur within the health care system.
The history of medicine in the US and elsewhere is not without its dark episodes and the past few years is one of the worst. Tuskegee syphilis experiment being just a prominent example of how "Nazi-like" U.S. physicians and public health departments can be. The Euthanasia society of America never stopped trying to influence American health care and some of it went into open, overt promotion of euthanasia and later assisted suicide. The other part went into disguise, covert promotion of undeclared medical killing, unrecorded, with falsified medical and nursing notes of what was done and why.
Perhaps you are not so naive as many. Perhaps it is not easy for a physician to openly speak out about such undeclared stealth euthanasia practices, but with COVID hospital treatment, there were many whistleblowers who indicated they saw how UN-trained nurses and UN-trained doctors were placed in units that were treating COVID patients Untrained nurses managing ventilators who were not accustomed to suctioning patients. Ventilators placed without a respiratory therapist adjusting the volumes, the type and length of hoses, and ventilator MODE settings that are unique for each patient's needs (as you know best, and who nurses like myself know since working with ventilator patients for decades).
There were patients on dialysis, for example, who had UNtrained nurses running dialysis. All these switching of staff where they were untrained was done at the behest of administrators who told those who objected, those who were expert in these areas, to shut up or be terminated. When doctors stood up to administration, they were shut down.
You are right that the proper medication treatments were not used, but there are other methods used to impose death, and there is no other conclusion that makes any logical sense when everything done was 100% in error, 100% of the time. By chance, one can make mistakes. But virtually everything done in the name of helping patients, was in effect harmful to the patients.
Giving Remdesivir known to be toxic and withholding helpful medications (Chloroquine for example) that were clearly known to be helpful (from SARS and MERS decades earlier), and refusing to use medications that were being successfully used in some areas and creating studies using obviously inappropriate dosing to declare these useful medications "dangerous" ... even when they're listed on the W.H.O.'s list of safe and effective medications to be used by all nations ... obviously a nefarious intent was at work, and still is.
We must recognize that stealth euthanasia is practiced widely. The full-length book (in e-book pdf form) explaining all of this is posted online for download at the Healthcare Advocacy and Leadership Organization website at
It is time for the truth to come out and for us to be unafraid to communicate the truth about what we are facing, whether as nurses, doctors, or patients.
Again, a thousand thanks for all you have done to save so many!! May God bless you and help you continue your work!
Well argued with very solid rationale based on your vast experience. I knew I bought the FLCCC beach towel of you as a super hero, cape and all, to show off at the club for a darn good reason! Thank you for being the professional you are. Thank you for taking the daggers you and Paul have for the sake of humanity and good medicine. I sometimes wonder if either of you really grasp the importance of your deeds and your place in history. You didn’t do it to be heroes but you really are. Thank you!
Since I have no medical training and rely on media to educate on the subject, the belief of “financial incentive” made perfect sense, up til now. I see a different perspective here, thanks to a view from an expert on the front lines. I guess I would still ask….”Was there an incentive in place to intubate?” If so, then maybe there are so many decisions that could affect the outcome of treatment, no one can know all of the facets that went into all of these decisions. The “old guard” has of course been replaced by the youth. Looking at the schools, what their objectives are, and what has been left out of the system when it comes to education, and knowing that the “protocols” don’t look at the patient individually as practiced in my day, the results are what they are. What a doctor means in this era of medicine is a big pharma tool and the Dr. Korys are out there, but it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Dr. Kory…… If you build it, they will come….your new practice with doctors of like minds…praying for you!!! Thanks again for your professional, expert, and mostly common sensical approach to medicine! It is a dying art…
During Pandemic one factor that most are not aware is that the CDC/Medicare paid out $40.000 to the hospital for every patient put on a ventilator. This financial incentive open the doors for corruption and over use of ventilators.
Note that I was describing a time before those incentives were in place. Plus, hospitals have always gotten very high reimbursements for ventilated patients, this was not new albeit they were larger. If I recall correctly, if a patient receives a tracheostomy in the hospital, the reimbursement for that hospital stay goes up by $95,000. I have never observed or been aware of any hospital policy that promoted tracheostomy placements, and I should know because I performed, and have done hundreds in my career
I’m a retired RN that spent almost all of my career in the Emergency Room. I love reading your articles and wish that I had the opportunity to work with you! You are thoughtful and kind in your explanation of this topic... Look at the patient and not just the numbers! Then make your decision on how to proceed and don’t just follow an algorithm made for a certain diagnosis and order everything that algorithm recommends. Each person is different and requires a different approach to address their individual needs and symptoms! I applaud you and your work. Thank you!
The logical way to determine if the profit motive was a factor in intubation would be to compare an NHS (UK) teaching hospital with a fee-for-profit institution in say Germany or the USA. (and compare with similar caseloads).
I recall once reading that your chance of having your appendix removed surgically was ten times higher in Germany than the UK ;-)
Thank you so much for offering such a wonderful explanation of ventilation procedures and concerns. I am not a medical person, but could easily understand what you wrote and feel I can now hold my own in a discussion. I am so grateful your knowledge and experience is being utilized to educate me and others. The losses you experienced from Covid have resulted in my own growth. Please know how much you and what you write are appreciated.
From what I gathered, patients were given 13 injectable drugs as well as being intubated and ventilated and those drugs included fentanyl and propofol. In addition, some were questioning why a lot of the survivors had to go on dialysis.
I respect you and have all along. You keep saying it was a “Novel” virus. Well what if it wasn’t? Of course the fear created the response. Please any of you that have the time to study.....Gigaohmbiological.com. Tell me what you think.
You may think it absurd, but hospitals DID kill patients for money. Why did they continue to use protocols that killed people and ignore treatments that saved people?
Only an expert vent geek could explain such a complex process so well. I must admit, I did not read everything in this post, but after losing my Dad on a vent many years ago before Covid and a cousin on a vent during Covid, I’ve been wondering about the technology as treatment.
You wrote: “Prior to Covid ever happening, most if not all patients who died in the hospital did so on a ventilator …”
I have NO medical expertise, but I’m wondering whether using ventilators as treatment before Covid (when most patients died on them) and during / after Covid should be replaced by something else. Of course, early treatment is the BEST treatment. But maybe we need a better tool for LATE treatment.
Not being a geek of any kind, I cannot suggest something better, I can only ask.
FLCCC’s team has done amazing out-of-the-box work with Covid and Covid Vax, Diabetes, Cancer, Sepsis, and more. Perhaps the same thought processes also could apply to ventilators. Could ventilators be a tool that belongs in an older toolbox?
For another take on hospital treatments, including ventilators, see Sasha Latypova’s posts here:
My understanding is that a patient is near death when the vent decision is made Their breathing requires more work than they are capable of and heart failure from lack of oxygen will occur. The premise is that with the vent they have a chance to recover from whatever else is failing. After watching the procedure, I know it was a difficult choice. While my wife recovered from that, it did contribute to her ultimate death months later (IMHO).
Dr. Kory sort of lost a lot of his credibility making his case that the vast majority of his Dr. peers were not just taking the money / bonuses while looking the other way.
The general image of ventilation at the covid time when it was in vogue was that (i) it was a last chance ticket, (ii) with practically 100% chance to die, (iii) applied without even considering the human nature of the patient, (iv) serving as a cart blanche to isolate the patient from the family, which all essentially gave the hospital an extremely highly paid training ground with zero expectation of procedure success. In high-stress media and politics boiling ground, it was never properly discussed, or even briefly presented to everybody (newspapers, CDC pages, email campaigns to millions of free accounts, online “alt” activists, etc). Except when terror was needed - I once read an interview in MSM with a decorated professor who boasted that he had 96% kill rate on ventilators repeatedly.
Whether the practice is medically beneficial (and at what condition of the patient) is a different story. Obviously, it may be when the setting leaves no alternative. The practice as such may be. What about the human factor? How many doctors in the field have been properly trained to order and supervise it? How many have been trained to properly run the eligibility criteria? How many of them have been instructed to discuss ventilation with other doctors on a case-to-case basis - considering its poor statistical outcome and complexity in the context of the patient? How many HCWs have been adequately trained to manage ventilation on a routine basis, as has been the case in 2020 till now?
I would expect (as a human being, with no medical factors taken into account) all failed ventilation cases must be subjected to special investigation. Serial dying of patients in one ward and with (or from) one procedure should rise eyebrows, and alarms, right? We have not heard about any such case. Not a single one. Quite the opposite, there were a number of confessions reporting the use of ventilation as a measure to get rid of patients for a $30k incentive. Since we don’t even see true statistics (intubated, dead, survived intubation, completely healed, etc.), we are left with yet another routine which has become a standard of practice despite lack of verifiable arguments for or against. Right along masks, lockdowns, or “preventive” cutting out of tonsils.
As a minimum, shouldn’t HC personnel be issued special licenses to work in the ventilation settings? License to “kill or survive” = immediate full liability for the outcome and the mandatory detailed reporting of each patient referred for ventilation. These people should be the elite of the elite, and respect for their dedication should surpass all other medical professions, being the measure of their courage and commitment. Human factors, much much more important than technical issues.
I get what you are saying. Yet it was the combination of Remdisivir with a failure to treat the inflammation in the lungs that ultimately lead to intubation and death. I met personally with Dr. Richard Bartlett. We talked for about 30 minutes as he was walking his grandfather through the Rehab center in Odessa. I was recovering from a motorcycle accident. He had 100% success treating with Budesonide with an inhaler even with patients with COPD, state 4 cancer, diabetes and obesity. There was damage caused to the lungs with the ventilators in many cases that radically inhibited recovery.
Is it not conceivable that the same top-down policies that destroyed your and Dr Merick's abilities to treat patients and save lives also lead to hospitals abandoning their patient-first policies to instead depend solely on dictates from on-high out of safety for their actual customers, their shareholders? How many hospitals *still* treat Covid patients with remdesivir? While you were honest, stuck to your guns and would not bow to pressure, why do you believe the rest of the medical industry did not toe the line and just do what they were told fearing the destruction of their careers and thus their ability to help patients from within the broken system? Could your honesty be blinding you?
I agree with your premise. The hospitalists who agreed to be responsible for, and direct (and presumably have even an inkling of Mechanical Ventilation Course I), respiratory decisions and procedures used in their hospitals' Covid ICUs and Covid wards, knew or should clearly have known better. Weren't the hospitalized patients past the infectious stage of viral diseases? I don't think Dr. Kory's honesty is blinding him, so much as that he is an optimist and finds it a bit difficult to realize the evil out there. I hope it's that, rather another reason, because we now know that hospital administers insisted that their hospitalists follow their orders to ventilate often, and early. The hospitalists who fought against and resisted those orders were dismissed, and other doctors were found who would implement "the procedures." Yes, mechanical ventilation costs are high, but in addition to reimburse of those typical costs, the hospitals received a substantial stipend over and above the typical costs for mechanical vents. There are very, very few doctors during the pandemic whom I would give a pass. Only those who stood up and told their patients, their families, and the world the truth, letting the chips fall where they may. The inappropriate procedures implemented "were not illegal?" By and large, these were not "mistakes in judgment." As an attorney, I'd sure try to hold some of these doctors liable for knowingly contributing to patient deaths. And, yet, Trump, with no medical knowledge, is criticized for not having consulted with more doctors? It would have made 100 times more sense to expect that the doctors treating people with Covid would consult with each other. And, disappointingly, they probably did.
Well they were all listening to Cuomo.......how many ventilators did they need to save everyone? It was already decided before a doctor even had a patient.
Oh it was decided already. Hospital administrators were paid off for implementing thus decision.
As both a retired Anesthesia Professional and a retired Attorney who spent several years as both a "chart expert" and on tap to be the "expert witness" in Medical Mal-Practice cases involving other Anesthesia Professionals, I have a slightly different view.
Before expressing that view, let me say my Anesthesia Career included hospitals that were Major Medical Centers/Teaching Hospitals and some were small rural hospitals. Over the course of some 32 years in Anesthesia I preformed, easily, well over 50,000 Intubations in all settings, Surgery, Obstetrics, ICU's of all types including NICU and CCU. I taught intubation to Anesthesia Trainees, Respiratory Therapy trainees, EMT trainees and Medical Residents in more than one Medical Specialty. I held both Academia and Clinical positions in Post Graduate Institutions.
The Covid-19 Fiasco involved a depth of lying, control and outright intimidation of people never before seen on a world wide basis. The nearest previous attempts by size being the Nazi Experiments on Concentration Camp Prisoners.
We had Illegal and Unconstitutional Mandates from politicians who have no training and expertise in any area remotely related to Infectious disease and treatment. We had State Boards of Pharmacy threatening to remove the license of Pharmacists who filled a valid Prescription for drugs such as Ivermectin written by Physicians who had more knowledge and experience in treating Infectious diseases that the Board of Pharmacy members and the Pharmacists on the front lines.
We had demented People with the "right" degrees, such as Anthony Fauci, Deborah, Birks, and many others whose names you should know who were "bought and paid for" by subhuman individuals such as Bill and Melinda Gates to push what we now know was a bio-weapon in stead of a vaccine.
We had politicians at the State and Federal level who were enthralled by their "power" who starting a few decades ago passed laws that were in direct violation with existing International Codes effective in the US that gave Health Care Providers the belief that they were protected from "liability" even if they coerced patients to take something with out telling them the bio-weapon touted as a vaccine was under EUA (emergency use authorization) meaning it was an experimental drug still under investigation and International Law, valid in the US, said the fact it was EUA, still under investigation meant no one, regardless of their inflated opinion of them selves, could force (i.e. mandate) that any human being take the jab. That included politicians, as well as various Medically related professions.
We had State Medical Boards and National Medical Specialty Boards pull Medical Licenses and Medical Specialty Certification from those Physicians who were saving lives of patients because they understood what was needed to save lives.
Now in the aftermath of the Covid Carnage we quibble about "when is the best time to intubate a patient and place them on a ventilator"!
Where are the Attorneys who understand the Nuremberg Code and have the guts to start prosecuting the multiple "Crimes Against Humanity" perpetrated in the last 3 years?
I stand proudly with Drs. Pierre Kory, Paul Merrick, Robert Malone, and others I know and revere for them putting their license on the line.
It is time for the "real" Attorneys to step up to the plate and clean house on the Scientists, Physicians Pharmacists, Medical and Pharmacy State Board members and Medical Specialty Board Members who crossed the line and people died because of it.
If I was 20 years younger, I'd be in the midst of the battle fighting for the rights of US Citizen's to have Medical Care without non-doctors, Medical and Specialty Board Members and Pharmacy Board Members controlling Physician's Care of their patients.
As always, there are instances where there is Mal-practice that the Attorney side of me understands need to be handled. But in Covid-19 there was rampant Political, Pharmacutical as well as Medical Mal-Practice at the highest levels that needs to be taken care of NOW!
I agree with everything you said. And your writing is superb.
Thank you it is nice to know that the summer I spent in Advanced Legal Writing taught by a crusty old retired Court of Appeals Judge must have been worth it.
I agree. I personally know three doctors - not epidemiologists, virologists, or vaccinologists, but GPs or specialists in non-related fields - who advised me and my family, including my children, unconditionally to get the jab. Just get it they said. When I asked them specific questions about risk/reward or possible side effects, they could only assert that the trials proved the vaccine was safe and effective. I have no reason to think they knew more than I did! This was a kind of mania that swept over nearly everyone, including our trusted medical professionals. "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." - Charles Mackay
Many doctors are not particularly good scientists.
# 1: The ACA Bill that had to be passed in order to find out what was in it, setup the foundation for these and many other protocols that the medical industrial complex uses to legally kill people with the assistance of the insurance companies.
# 2: Every practicing Doctor or Physician, takes a "Do No Harm," hippocratic oath, which is disregarded when it comes to many of the above in # 1, so the integruous ones become alternative health practicioners, being chased down and sued by the Medical Boards/Pharmu, and other gestapos/useful tools...
# 3: Due to the power of the fear and non-critical thinking propaganda, brainwashing, etc., the majority of the Health "Professionals" did not stand up in unified resistance, which was a critical fault of allowing the suppression of the Dr's like Pierre Kory and others from being able to get the word out and literally save lives - whether these "Professionals" were in fear for self-preservation of life-style, or really fell for the msm hype, comes in 2nd place to their broken oaths, both individually, and collectively, and there will be justice, someday...tick-tock!
Dear Dr Kory,
First of all, a thousand "thank you"s to you and your colleagues for all the work done that has clearly saved hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of people who listened to you, FLCCC, and the wonderful protocols that have guided health care professionals as well as lay people trying to navigate a dangerous and previously unknown threat to their lives.
What I wish to convey, is that your wonderfully sophisticated and precise analysis of the ins and outs of respiratory treatment for these patients, as thorough as it is, fails to recognize what most people who work within healthcare find very hard to believe: there are some who intend harm, intentionally and have done so surreptitiously "under the radar" and either used treatments that actively harmed patients, removed treatments or medications that were already helping patients, or withheld treatments that would have helped patients. This is stealth euthanasia and has been revealed to occur within the health care system.
The history of medicine in the US and elsewhere is not without its dark episodes and the past few years is one of the worst. Tuskegee syphilis experiment being just a prominent example of how "Nazi-like" U.S. physicians and public health departments can be. The Euthanasia society of America never stopped trying to influence American health care and some of it went into open, overt promotion of euthanasia and later assisted suicide. The other part went into disguise, covert promotion of undeclared medical killing, unrecorded, with falsified medical and nursing notes of what was done and why.
Perhaps you are not so naive as many. Perhaps it is not easy for a physician to openly speak out about such undeclared stealth euthanasia practices, but with COVID hospital treatment, there were many whistleblowers who indicated they saw how UN-trained nurses and UN-trained doctors were placed in units that were treating COVID patients Untrained nurses managing ventilators who were not accustomed to suctioning patients. Ventilators placed without a respiratory therapist adjusting the volumes, the type and length of hoses, and ventilator MODE settings that are unique for each patient's needs (as you know best, and who nurses like myself know since working with ventilator patients for decades).
There were patients on dialysis, for example, who had UNtrained nurses running dialysis. All these switching of staff where they were untrained was done at the behest of administrators who told those who objected, those who were expert in these areas, to shut up or be terminated. When doctors stood up to administration, they were shut down.
You are right that the proper medication treatments were not used, but there are other methods used to impose death, and there is no other conclusion that makes any logical sense when everything done was 100% in error, 100% of the time. By chance, one can make mistakes. But virtually everything done in the name of helping patients, was in effect harmful to the patients.
Giving Remdesivir known to be toxic and withholding helpful medications (Chloroquine for example) that were clearly known to be helpful (from SARS and MERS decades earlier), and refusing to use medications that were being successfully used in some areas and creating studies using obviously inappropriate dosing to declare these useful medications "dangerous" ... even when they're listed on the W.H.O.'s list of safe and effective medications to be used by all nations ... obviously a nefarious intent was at work, and still is.
We must recognize that stealth euthanasia is practiced widely. The full-length book (in e-book pdf form) explaining all of this is posted online for download at the Healthcare Advocacy and Leadership Organization website at
https://halovoice.org/wp-content/uploads/stealth-euthanasia-1-by-Ron-Panzer.pdf
It is time for the truth to come out and for us to be unafraid to communicate the truth about what we are facing, whether as nurses, doctors, or patients.
Again, a thousand thanks for all you have done to save so many!! May God bless you and help you continue your work!
Please uncapitalize "UN"; it looks like the United Nations trained them.
The UN just might have done so. They have their own agenda, and it isn’t our best interests.
Well argued with very solid rationale based on your vast experience. I knew I bought the FLCCC beach towel of you as a super hero, cape and all, to show off at the club for a darn good reason! Thank you for being the professional you are. Thank you for taking the daggers you and Paul have for the sake of humanity and good medicine. I sometimes wonder if either of you really grasp the importance of your deeds and your place in history. You didn’t do it to be heroes but you really are. Thank you!
Since I have no medical training and rely on media to educate on the subject, the belief of “financial incentive” made perfect sense, up til now. I see a different perspective here, thanks to a view from an expert on the front lines. I guess I would still ask….”Was there an incentive in place to intubate?” If so, then maybe there are so many decisions that could affect the outcome of treatment, no one can know all of the facets that went into all of these decisions. The “old guard” has of course been replaced by the youth. Looking at the schools, what their objectives are, and what has been left out of the system when it comes to education, and knowing that the “protocols” don’t look at the patient individually as practiced in my day, the results are what they are. What a doctor means in this era of medicine is a big pharma tool and the Dr. Korys are out there, but it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Dr. Kory…… If you build it, they will come….your new practice with doctors of like minds…praying for you!!! Thanks again for your professional, expert, and mostly common sensical approach to medicine! It is a dying art…
During Pandemic one factor that most are not aware is that the CDC/Medicare paid out $40.000 to the hospital for every patient put on a ventilator. This financial incentive open the doors for corruption and over use of ventilators.
Note that I was describing a time before those incentives were in place. Plus, hospitals have always gotten very high reimbursements for ventilated patients, this was not new albeit they were larger. If I recall correctly, if a patient receives a tracheostomy in the hospital, the reimbursement for that hospital stay goes up by $95,000. I have never observed or been aware of any hospital policy that promoted tracheostomy placements, and I should know because I performed, and have done hundreds in my career
I’m a retired RN that spent almost all of my career in the Emergency Room. I love reading your articles and wish that I had the opportunity to work with you! You are thoughtful and kind in your explanation of this topic... Look at the patient and not just the numbers! Then make your decision on how to proceed and don’t just follow an algorithm made for a certain diagnosis and order everything that algorithm recommends. Each person is different and requires a different approach to address their individual needs and symptoms! I applaud you and your work. Thank you!
The logical way to determine if the profit motive was a factor in intubation would be to compare an NHS (UK) teaching hospital with a fee-for-profit institution in say Germany or the USA. (and compare with similar caseloads).
I recall once reading that your chance of having your appendix removed surgically was ten times higher in Germany than the UK ;-)
Thank you so much for offering such a wonderful explanation of ventilation procedures and concerns. I am not a medical person, but could easily understand what you wrote and feel I can now hold my own in a discussion. I am so grateful your knowledge and experience is being utilized to educate me and others. The losses you experienced from Covid have resulted in my own growth. Please know how much you and what you write are appreciated.
From what I gathered, patients were given 13 injectable drugs as well as being intubated and ventilated and those drugs included fentanyl and propofol. In addition, some were questioning why a lot of the survivors had to go on dialysis.
I respect you and have all along. You keep saying it was a “Novel” virus. Well what if it wasn’t? Of course the fear created the response. Please any of you that have the time to study.....Gigaohmbiological.com. Tell me what you think.
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You may think it absurd, but hospitals DID kill patients for money. Why did they continue to use protocols that killed people and ignore treatments that saved people?
Dear Dr. Kory,
Only an expert vent geek could explain such a complex process so well. I must admit, I did not read everything in this post, but after losing my Dad on a vent many years ago before Covid and a cousin on a vent during Covid, I’ve been wondering about the technology as treatment.
You wrote: “Prior to Covid ever happening, most if not all patients who died in the hospital did so on a ventilator …”
I have NO medical expertise, but I’m wondering whether using ventilators as treatment before Covid (when most patients died on them) and during / after Covid should be replaced by something else. Of course, early treatment is the BEST treatment. But maybe we need a better tool for LATE treatment.
Not being a geek of any kind, I cannot suggest something better, I can only ask.
FLCCC’s team has done amazing out-of-the-box work with Covid and Covid Vax, Diabetes, Cancer, Sepsis, and more. Perhaps the same thought processes also could apply to ventilators. Could ventilators be a tool that belongs in an older toolbox?
For another take on hospital treatments, including ventilators, see Sasha Latypova’s posts here:
* https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/intent-to-harm
* https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/chief-of-nuclear-chemical-and-biological
* https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/pandemic-preparedness-a-government
* https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/pandemic-preparedness-a-government
Again, I’m not judging, just asking questions.
My understanding is that a patient is near death when the vent decision is made Their breathing requires more work than they are capable of and heart failure from lack of oxygen will occur. The premise is that with the vent they have a chance to recover from whatever else is failing. After watching the procedure, I know it was a difficult choice. While my wife recovered from that, it did contribute to her ultimate death months later (IMHO).
Dr. Kory sort of lost a lot of his credibility making his case that the vast majority of his Dr. peers were not just taking the money / bonuses while looking the other way.
Despicable view & position vs known reality..
I am unaware that I made any such statements. Note that my post was focused on the responses in the first wave only, and in two medical centers.
The general image of ventilation at the covid time when it was in vogue was that (i) it was a last chance ticket, (ii) with practically 100% chance to die, (iii) applied without even considering the human nature of the patient, (iv) serving as a cart blanche to isolate the patient from the family, which all essentially gave the hospital an extremely highly paid training ground with zero expectation of procedure success. In high-stress media and politics boiling ground, it was never properly discussed, or even briefly presented to everybody (newspapers, CDC pages, email campaigns to millions of free accounts, online “alt” activists, etc). Except when terror was needed - I once read an interview in MSM with a decorated professor who boasted that he had 96% kill rate on ventilators repeatedly.
Whether the practice is medically beneficial (and at what condition of the patient) is a different story. Obviously, it may be when the setting leaves no alternative. The practice as such may be. What about the human factor? How many doctors in the field have been properly trained to order and supervise it? How many have been trained to properly run the eligibility criteria? How many of them have been instructed to discuss ventilation with other doctors on a case-to-case basis - considering its poor statistical outcome and complexity in the context of the patient? How many HCWs have been adequately trained to manage ventilation on a routine basis, as has been the case in 2020 till now?
I would expect (as a human being, with no medical factors taken into account) all failed ventilation cases must be subjected to special investigation. Serial dying of patients in one ward and with (or from) one procedure should rise eyebrows, and alarms, right? We have not heard about any such case. Not a single one. Quite the opposite, there were a number of confessions reporting the use of ventilation as a measure to get rid of patients for a $30k incentive. Since we don’t even see true statistics (intubated, dead, survived intubation, completely healed, etc.), we are left with yet another routine which has become a standard of practice despite lack of verifiable arguments for or against. Right along masks, lockdowns, or “preventive” cutting out of tonsils.
As a minimum, shouldn’t HC personnel be issued special licenses to work in the ventilation settings? License to “kill or survive” = immediate full liability for the outcome and the mandatory detailed reporting of each patient referred for ventilation. These people should be the elite of the elite, and respect for their dedication should surpass all other medical professions, being the measure of their courage and commitment. Human factors, much much more important than technical issues.
I get what you are saying. Yet it was the combination of Remdisivir with a failure to treat the inflammation in the lungs that ultimately lead to intubation and death. I met personally with Dr. Richard Bartlett. We talked for about 30 minutes as he was walking his grandfather through the Rehab center in Odessa. I was recovering from a motorcycle accident. He had 100% success treating with Budesonide with an inhaler even with patients with COPD, state 4 cancer, diabetes and obesity. There was damage caused to the lungs with the ventilators in many cases that radically inhibited recovery.
Thank you for a great explanation of the factors involved. Very helpful for me.
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