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Brucha Weisberger's avatar

I think there must be widely different factual truths that people will have experienced on the topic of ventilators - depending on the hospital where the patient or doctor was.

Tragically there seems to be no question that there were hospitals that were routinely blowing people’s lungs out with ventilators set very high. There’s so much testimony about that, plus testimony about misuse of the sedatives. Think about Nurse Erin’s testimony from Elmwood Hospital. Also, here in NY, one of the world epicenters for covid deaths, I’m right near Maimonides hospital, from where many, many horror stories emanated. I know that a man in our community walked in on his own two feet on the Sabbath in his festive clothing, and hours later was in a body bag. What is that, if not murder by ventilator or sedatives? Something horrible was going on there, no question. The whole community came to realize that Maimonides was NOT a safe place for a covid patient, as an inordinate number were never making it out. There were even stories of people being unplugged from ventilators on Saturdays, when many staff were off. It was a death trap. I believe that a huge death count was purposely created in NYC in order to hype worldwide fear. I can connect you to people here who can testify about what was going on, if you want to investigate.

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Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

Brucha - I can only speak to what I observed in the 6 hospitals and ICU's I worked in during Covid. I also trained the ICU Director at Elmhurst (not Elmwood) and she knows how to manage ventilators expertly. Elmhurst was a disaster scene that I know. However, you should know that, both myself and several of my colleagues have been serving as expert witnesses in a number of cases where hospitals and doctors are being accused of immense amounts of malfeasance, some of them highly public cases, and the reality of what happened in most of the cases is stunningly different from what was being portrayed in the media and especially social media. This is not to say terrible care or neglect did not happen, but when you are able to carefully review the facts and all the facts of each case, often a very different picture emerges. But not always. I am currently an expert in a case where the quality of care literally defies belief.

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Maw's avatar

Hi Dr. Kory, one question: these "cases where hospitals and doctors are being accused of immense amounts of malfeasance, some of them highly public cases, and the reality of what happened in most of the cases is stunningly different from what was being portrayed in the media and especially social media"- are they related to COVID, or something else? Because the media narrative that I am overwhelmingly familiar with is that hospitals and doctors did a heroic, near-perfect job with COVID, and all the deaths are just because COVID is such a "horrible, deadly disease". In fact, I am not aware of any highly public cases of alleged malfeasance related to COVID (unless of course, they are going after a doctor who gave ivermectin or other alternative treatment, etc.). If you don't mind, can you give some examples of which highly public cases you are referring to?

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Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

They are all covid related. The hospitals certainly did NOT do anywhere close to a perfect job but many/most providers and nurses worked their assess off to insane degrees in often chaotic surges of patients. Unfortunately, I cannot give details on those cases.. yet.

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Soul Warrior's avatar

My dad went to the hospital to get monoclonal antibodies because my mom had COVID. They declined him these antibodies for not being jabbed. They admitted him, immediately put on a catheter ( why?), started Remdesivir immediately. He was isolated, starved, dehydrated, hands tied down, left in bed, phone put I. His Janet pocket, no TV, taken off normal daily meds, refused to give vitamins, vitamins, put on a high flo bipap, sedatives, end of life protocol he was murdered in 12 days. One time we checked in with Dr and she said sarcastically .. “welll.. he’s alive”. After they murdered him and stole his wedding ring we were “allowed” to see him and the “nurse” said .. “ too bad he wasn’t vaccinated he’d still be alive”. How the unjabbed get “ treated” And btw when I got his medical records he tested NEGATIVE. He was dead in 12 days.

My mother got captured by checking her lungs at a different hospital because she had chronic bronchitis .. she told them no Remdesivir but they came in w a bag not telling her what it was which was Remdesivir. She escaped and lived.

My uncle was jabbed died of blood clots of lungs and heart attack .. death certificate said COVID.

Nothing to see here.

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SEF's avatar

So very sorry to hear about your dad

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Letsrock's avatar

There aren't even any words, I can't begin to imagine. Heartbreaking.

Is there any way they can be charged w murder?

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Letsrock's avatar

Thank you for that link. How do these scumbags live w themselves? Mind boggling.

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jw's avatar

They live w/themselves because $$$$$$

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Letsrock's avatar

No, really???

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Such horrors. I’m so sorry.

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ArielT's avatar

Father almost died of blood clots in the lungs, had to have emergency surgery to remove 50% of them, on blood thinners for probably the rest of his life which won’t be long now. His health has declined rapidly since getting vaccinated, never had covid.

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Tom Tunes's avatar

Very sorry to hear that about your Dad. A friend if mine had the same experience as your mother. I’m glad they both made it out.

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Cynthia's avatar

Please watch JJ Couey Gigaohmbiological.com. More and more is coming clearer to me. I am older now and witnessed much. Cory is a warrior without the time to dig deeper. I appreciate his early treatment work etc. although exactly what a good doctor would do if there truly was a pandemic. However, in addition more is and has been going on in medicine for ages. I want answers and maybe you do too. My only hope is that at this stage in my life, maybe one on one who knows, the truth could be spread. Thanks in case you do check it out. It’s a little bit heavy, but worth the watch.

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ceejay's avatar

I remember stories from new york in the early days where doctors were terrified of being infected and anyone walking in the door with asthma or anxiety was put on a vent straight away. Most never made it off the vent. I'm sure that settled down after a while. But I'm also sure it contributed to the death toll in the early days. And yes. They were also not treated for whatever their presenting problem was

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Dina Barzilai's avatar

there is the Wisconsin case of Grace Schara, pretty horrifying, if you listen to an interview with her dad who filed suit against Ascension St Elizabeth hospital.

Then there is a class action lawsuit in California--maybe Bakersfield or Fresno? filed by families of patients--i heard 2 of the attorneys interviewed on the Highwire. Can't recall names or specifics but it was definitely related to hospital or doctor alleged malfeasance.

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Blair's avatar

My thoughts exactly....

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I know from a friend retired nurse, that respirators should only be used very carefully. A nurse online stated the same. I am afraid that in the panic, nurses and even doctors who did not know how to properly use the device, probably not out of ill will but trying to save patients, did it wrong. Panic is never a good advizor.

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Sally M's avatar

Thank you for posting that link to Brownstones excellent review of the improbability of NYC spike of Covid deaths!!!

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sadie's avatar

It was good, wasn't it? Would like to hear Dr Kory's response to it...

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Cynthia's avatar

Just an older woman here asking please consider Gigaohmbiological.com. Will you consider the possibility that many “cases” were not Covid at all? Your work is greatly appreciated.

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Chris's avatar

https://substack.com/@reidgsheftall/note/c-43738613?r=9t512

I think this is the correct understanding. It's basic common sense, when you take into account what we now know about the issue of microclotting

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