In some circles an insane amount of attention was paid this week to the theories of a chiropractor previously celebrated for speaking out on the fraudulent Remdesivir saga in the US. Here is my take.
Thank you for taking the time. I've seen Dr, Ardis for years, and din't know what to make of him.
But- I think Smoking (unhealthy), Tobacco (Bitter-hence the smoking), and Nicotine a chemical that resembles some B vitamins? Need to be considered separately.
I think there should be a single study of-
Ivermectin-Proven safe baseline therapy.
Hydroxychloroquine
DMSO
Chlorine Dioxide
Methylene Blue
Nicotine patches (prophylaxis?)
It's also interesting that Dr. Ardis claims Nicotine isn't addictive, so he uses it every day.......
Thanks doctor, for watching and evaluating. I too wish you could have back those hours of your life, but in doing what you did, I didn't have to. That gave me at least two extra hours (I'm slow) of tractor work at the ranch here in Texas.... and I didn't get even one snakebite.
I'm a layperson with zero medical training (other than law enforcement first aid & trauma response training), and a "Johnny come-lately" to this snake venom theory by Dr. Brian Ardis. A Ph.D. relative sent me an interview version that I first watched before graduating to the "Watch the Water" "documentary". After watching this version, I came away with a much different opinion than the original interview. The difference is pretty stark, so if any reader is interested in a more logical & structured presentation of Dr. Ardis' theory, they can go here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/8r2399TOdwSP/.
Anyway, I appreciate Dr. Kory emphasizing the lack of medical training & failure to consult more qualified medical personnel in virology or ER experience. Despite the emotional trauma (and justified anger) Dr. Ardis experienced, he still has obligation to consult experts in their fields before broadcasting his largely uncollaborated theories. However, I will tell you the sarcasm likely didn't (or won't) go over well with those who take his theory seriously. I felt some of that sarcasm to be a drawback, particularly when I have to inform of few folks I know of Dr. Ardis' pitfalls. Of course, were it not for the massive corruption of the entire "vaccine" industry, no one would be taking Dr. Ardis' theory that serious. But I think a little more direct refutation of his analysis w/o the sarcasm would help those who are most in need of distancing themselves from his largely unsupportable theory. Although you did give him some credit for a few points, it was lost in the derogatory tone. If anyone is interested in why I say this, the conversation he had in the link above within the last 6 months would help reinforce my opinion. Much of the dissenting public have every right to be angry at the gross corruption & unprofessionalism exhibited by a once great profession that became "captured" & financially dependent on a Pharmaceutical industry that has gone mad with power, money, corruption, with an equally corrupt MSM that parrots more propaganda & all the anti-science crap we were force-fed by those who live off of our tax dollars. I call them the Govt-Pharma cartel for good reason, parroting precisely what Dr. David E. Martin says about them in his brilliant & qualified analysis. End of Rant.
Having said that, Dr. Kory is one of the dozen or so who I rely on for accurate, competent, expert advice & analysis, and will continue to do so. Keep up the great work.
Good points. There will always be those with a different opinion. We have to be able to discuss the differences. Your referenced video makes a lot of sense with scientific references. Speaking of differences of opinion Dr. Yeadon is saying Ivermectin is an anti fertility drug. Claims he has a large study to support. I have always thought Dr. Yeadon was a little off the wall but this is raising doubts among Ivermectin supporters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-haNEmi8FoI
Thanks for the quick answer, Scott! I was delighted to hear you'd 'landed' with Pierre! If ever I need medical attention, y'all are who I'll be calling!
I only slightly worry -- had covid in Dec 2021: for a week of sleep and nothing else, no other symptoms... but there are a LOT of bits and pieces of "even those who only had covid and no after-effects may have longer-term worries." (And my bro-in-law died of shotshotboosted...) My d-dimer went up after -- to 0.94 a couple weeks after I was "over" covid; 1.11 a month after that, then down to 0.69 ~4 mos later. Thought I'd dodged a bullet, but then Pierre said (somewhere) that 'd-dimer returning to normal is not definitive...." No other effects I can see/tell, but I'm always on the lookout.
And for all his apparent "cardshark-ness?" -- Ardis is very intelligent seeming, puts together a lot of legit "sources" (however inappropriately?) and can be pretty persuasive... He might have made a good and caring MD, if he had not been SO (rightly) angered at his family's treatment by the field. Alas, a view I have shared, and have had massively deepened, these past several years.
Interestingly, David Asprey -- the "bulletproof coffee" guy you may know of? -- had the same horrific problem with his newborn son, intractable pain and screaming, and discovered chiropracty about the same way... I always remember Dave marveling over: the chiro put a nickel on the back of Dave's hand -- and said THAT is the amount of weight/force he'd used to 'cure' his baby's agony.
Wish you and Pierre all the well-deserved luck in the world!
Dr. Kory, thank you for the time you spent on this snake venom theory. I was curious and your work was of great value to me. This topic needed to be debunked. Now I can move on to more credited articles and authoritative positions as presented by you and FLCCC and my other favorite’s like Dr’s Malone, Weinstein, Heying, Gold, Ealy, McCullough, Ladapo, etc…. Bless Steve Kirsch and Del Bigtree…
Thank you for addressing this issue. With COVID came a blossoming of people with a blog or radio show claiming expertise with little to no medical training. (I'm a physician, BTW). Dr. Jane Ruby, who never misses a chance to use her prefix is not a physician but does hold a PhD in educational psychology.
Ah, that helps me... understand MY sense of dislike... She's not one I consider valid; she seems smart, but not educated in places I'd like to be able to show more knowledge.
Fascinating Mike. Much appreciated. You gave further evidence to how pervasive the study and use of snake venom properties/mechanisms are in therapeutics and drug development. As you noted, I kept most of my arguments to his "clinical" assertions that were so off the mark and devoid of any experience in taking care of hospitalized COVID patients. Although my life has been transformed over the past 15 months by witnessing depravity and corruption that I never knew could have existed so pervasively.. I can now entertain any theory of malevolence such as snake venoms in everything(I mean our FDA and Pharma are trying to covid vaccinate 6 month to 5 year olds with ineffective and toxic vaccines for what is to the little guys a common cold or just another childhood viral syndrome - this attempt is an absurdity and an obscenity) however Ardis's theory of malevolence, although possible, the arguments and evidence put forth were so scattered and tangential (at best), and outright false and illogical (in most). Ugh. Really want to move past this episode
Excellent treatment of this snake venom fiasco. Your thoughtfulness and detail are just so refreshing and balanced. If I may, I would like to add some additional details with respect to Remdesivir to the discussion. I can also provide some personal credentials going forward if you like.
Remdesivir is a B/D-PLA2 nucleoside analog which targets viral replication enzymes resulting in deadly viral mutations. The drug also has certain properties rendering it useful in the treatment of the coagulopathies seen in Covid. It has been shown to have some efficacy against SARS, MERS and the CoV’s in general. The drug is derived from the venom of Bothrops Leucurus known as the Whitetailed Lancehead. Also known as the Bahia Lancehead, the snake is found primarily in Northeastern Brazil and accounts for most of the snake bites in that area. It is also interesting to note that two common synthetic drugs used in medicine, Captopril and Vasotec, have their origins in the venom of Bothrops jararaca, another snake common to Brazil. Cite: “Bioactive Molecules Derived from Snake Venoms with Therapeutic Potential for the Treatment of Thrombo-Cardiovascular Disorders, Cherri & Djebari, The Protein Journal 40, 799-841 (2021) Table 3”
So, I can very reasonably conclude that Cobra venom is not involved in Remdesivir. By inference, I could also conclude that the peptide sequences in SARS CoV2 spike, while very close to those found in venoms, likely do not derive from Cobra venom. On the other hand, the peptides found in venoms can be similar across the spectrum of origins. It took a good while for me to find this information on the drug’s origin which apparently has been overlooked in the discussions. However, it can be concluded we are dealing with a drug whose mechanisms of action are both useful and concerning in my view.
I am not ascribing any intent to harm or otherwise supporting the views espoused by Ardis in the documentary. However, what is most interesting to me is to explore further how drugs derived from venomous sources offer both therapeutic benefits and side effects beyond that which we currently understand. Consideration has to be given to effects beyond what is intended. If the “side” effects of Rem are consistent with effects found in envenomation, this would offer additional treatment options to clinicians in emergency departments. For example, the use of certain monoclonals related to snake bite envenomation might be useful. I’m just opining here.
This is not an easy subject to discuss but the inaccuracies/conclusions drawn by Ardis need to be addressed as you have so well done here. This ain’t over yet.
Dr. Kory, will your new book be available in audio format? I read almost all books by listening to them. I'm a really busy person; listening to books works out well for me because I can do it while washing dishes, cleaning house, tending my woodstove, and so on.
We lost our 40-year old daughter to COVID-19 (alpha) back on 12/12/20. The treatment protocol was flawed....just plain wrong. Three grandchildren in Germany with no mom. My wife and I came down with COVID-19 (delta) in November 2021. Our self-dosing with Ivermectin was not increased to 2X as we were ignorant of the tenacity of the delta variant. My wife was hospitalized for five days in early December and received Remdesivir. Last week she went to the ER with Panceatitis. We no longer trust the NIH, CDC, FDA, Fauci, The Media, Mainstream medical.
Wow. Of course I am sorry to hear your story.. but glad your wife survived hospital, not enough do. Time to rebuild the agencies with a force field shutting out direct pharma corporation control..
Thanks for the comprehensive description. Only truth can combat the lies we are flooded with. The major problem with censorship is it sets everyone up for ignorance - especially and including the perpetrators. It is up to all of us to individually access the truth of what is put forth. This entire situation is based on an attempt to control the population through fear. Problem for them is that many refuse to accept this.
I've been looking askance at Ardis for quite a while (a year?). He was spot-on in identifying and publicizing the ebola trial that Fauci fraudulently claimed showed Run-deathisnear to be safe-and-effective. He had sort-of established some credibility, but not enough to counterbalance the ... odd .. things he also put out (and his spotty/scattered background). Anytime I'd send out info he was pushing to friends and family; I'd include my ... reservations ... about him and his background. This was his deathblow... Even IF he finds good info going forward; I cannot rely on him correctly interpreting it or synthesizing it with anything else.
Thanks for spending some of your oh-so-valuable time clearing this up!
Thank you for taking the time. I've seen Dr, Ardis for years, and din't know what to make of him.
But- I think Smoking (unhealthy), Tobacco (Bitter-hence the smoking), and Nicotine a chemical that resembles some B vitamins? Need to be considered separately.
I think there should be a single study of-
Ivermectin-Proven safe baseline therapy.
Hydroxychloroquine
DMSO
Chlorine Dioxide
Methylene Blue
Nicotine patches (prophylaxis?)
It's also interesting that Dr. Ardis claims Nicotine isn't addictive, so he uses it every day.......
Thanks doctor, for watching and evaluating. I too wish you could have back those hours of your life, but in doing what you did, I didn't have to. That gave me at least two extra hours (I'm slow) of tractor work at the ranch here in Texas.... and I didn't get even one snakebite.
Dr Joe Drane
I'm a layperson with zero medical training (other than law enforcement first aid & trauma response training), and a "Johnny come-lately" to this snake venom theory by Dr. Brian Ardis. A Ph.D. relative sent me an interview version that I first watched before graduating to the "Watch the Water" "documentary". After watching this version, I came away with a much different opinion than the original interview. The difference is pretty stark, so if any reader is interested in a more logical & structured presentation of Dr. Ardis' theory, they can go here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/8r2399TOdwSP/.
Anyway, I appreciate Dr. Kory emphasizing the lack of medical training & failure to consult more qualified medical personnel in virology or ER experience. Despite the emotional trauma (and justified anger) Dr. Ardis experienced, he still has obligation to consult experts in their fields before broadcasting his largely uncollaborated theories. However, I will tell you the sarcasm likely didn't (or won't) go over well with those who take his theory seriously. I felt some of that sarcasm to be a drawback, particularly when I have to inform of few folks I know of Dr. Ardis' pitfalls. Of course, were it not for the massive corruption of the entire "vaccine" industry, no one would be taking Dr. Ardis' theory that serious. But I think a little more direct refutation of his analysis w/o the sarcasm would help those who are most in need of distancing themselves from his largely unsupportable theory. Although you did give him some credit for a few points, it was lost in the derogatory tone. If anyone is interested in why I say this, the conversation he had in the link above within the last 6 months would help reinforce my opinion. Much of the dissenting public have every right to be angry at the gross corruption & unprofessionalism exhibited by a once great profession that became "captured" & financially dependent on a Pharmaceutical industry that has gone mad with power, money, corruption, with an equally corrupt MSM that parrots more propaganda & all the anti-science crap we were force-fed by those who live off of our tax dollars. I call them the Govt-Pharma cartel for good reason, parroting precisely what Dr. David E. Martin says about them in his brilliant & qualified analysis. End of Rant.
Having said that, Dr. Kory is one of the dozen or so who I rely on for accurate, competent, expert advice & analysis, and will continue to do so. Keep up the great work.
Good points. There will always be those with a different opinion. We have to be able to discuss the differences. Your referenced video makes a lot of sense with scientific references. Speaking of differences of opinion Dr. Yeadon is saying Ivermectin is an anti fertility drug. Claims he has a large study to support. I have always thought Dr. Yeadon was a little off the wall but this is raising doubts among Ivermectin supporters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-haNEmi8FoI
Thanks for the quick answer, Scott! I was delighted to hear you'd 'landed' with Pierre! If ever I need medical attention, y'all are who I'll be calling!
I only slightly worry -- had covid in Dec 2021: for a week of sleep and nothing else, no other symptoms... but there are a LOT of bits and pieces of "even those who only had covid and no after-effects may have longer-term worries." (And my bro-in-law died of shotshotboosted...) My d-dimer went up after -- to 0.94 a couple weeks after I was "over" covid; 1.11 a month after that, then down to 0.69 ~4 mos later. Thought I'd dodged a bullet, but then Pierre said (somewhere) that 'd-dimer returning to normal is not definitive...." No other effects I can see/tell, but I'm always on the lookout.
And for all his apparent "cardshark-ness?" -- Ardis is very intelligent seeming, puts together a lot of legit "sources" (however inappropriately?) and can be pretty persuasive... He might have made a good and caring MD, if he had not been SO (rightly) angered at his family's treatment by the field. Alas, a view I have shared, and have had massively deepened, these past several years.
Interestingly, David Asprey -- the "bulletproof coffee" guy you may know of? -- had the same horrific problem with his newborn son, intractable pain and screaming, and discovered chiropracty about the same way... I always remember Dave marveling over: the chiro put a nickel on the back of Dave's hand -- and said THAT is the amount of weight/force he'd used to 'cure' his baby's agony.
Wish you and Pierre all the well-deserved luck in the world!
Dr. Kory, thank you for the time you spent on this snake venom theory. I was curious and your work was of great value to me. This topic needed to be debunked. Now I can move on to more credited articles and authoritative positions as presented by you and FLCCC and my other favorite’s like Dr’s Malone, Weinstein, Heying, Gold, Ealy, McCullough, Ladapo, etc…. Bless Steve Kirsch and Del Bigtree…
Thank you for addressing this issue. With COVID came a blossoming of people with a blog or radio show claiming expertise with little to no medical training. (I'm a physician, BTW). Dr. Jane Ruby, who never misses a chance to use her prefix is not a physician but does hold a PhD in educational psychology.
Dr. Ardis is a chiropractor not a MD. I do feel that some DCs like to let people think they are MDs.
Ah, that helps me... understand MY sense of dislike... She's not one I consider valid; she seems smart, but not educated in places I'd like to be able to show more knowledge.
Fascinating Mike. Much appreciated. You gave further evidence to how pervasive the study and use of snake venom properties/mechanisms are in therapeutics and drug development. As you noted, I kept most of my arguments to his "clinical" assertions that were so off the mark and devoid of any experience in taking care of hospitalized COVID patients. Although my life has been transformed over the past 15 months by witnessing depravity and corruption that I never knew could have existed so pervasively.. I can now entertain any theory of malevolence such as snake venoms in everything(I mean our FDA and Pharma are trying to covid vaccinate 6 month to 5 year olds with ineffective and toxic vaccines for what is to the little guys a common cold or just another childhood viral syndrome - this attempt is an absurdity and an obscenity) however Ardis's theory of malevolence, although possible, the arguments and evidence put forth were so scattered and tangential (at best), and outright false and illogical (in most). Ugh. Really want to move past this episode
Excellent treatment of this snake venom fiasco. Your thoughtfulness and detail are just so refreshing and balanced. If I may, I would like to add some additional details with respect to Remdesivir to the discussion. I can also provide some personal credentials going forward if you like.
Remdesivir is a B/D-PLA2 nucleoside analog which targets viral replication enzymes resulting in deadly viral mutations. The drug also has certain properties rendering it useful in the treatment of the coagulopathies seen in Covid. It has been shown to have some efficacy against SARS, MERS and the CoV’s in general. The drug is derived from the venom of Bothrops Leucurus known as the Whitetailed Lancehead. Also known as the Bahia Lancehead, the snake is found primarily in Northeastern Brazil and accounts for most of the snake bites in that area. It is also interesting to note that two common synthetic drugs used in medicine, Captopril and Vasotec, have their origins in the venom of Bothrops jararaca, another snake common to Brazil. Cite: “Bioactive Molecules Derived from Snake Venoms with Therapeutic Potential for the Treatment of Thrombo-Cardiovascular Disorders, Cherri & Djebari, The Protein Journal 40, 799-841 (2021) Table 3”
So, I can very reasonably conclude that Cobra venom is not involved in Remdesivir. By inference, I could also conclude that the peptide sequences in SARS CoV2 spike, while very close to those found in venoms, likely do not derive from Cobra venom. On the other hand, the peptides found in venoms can be similar across the spectrum of origins. It took a good while for me to find this information on the drug’s origin which apparently has been overlooked in the discussions. However, it can be concluded we are dealing with a drug whose mechanisms of action are both useful and concerning in my view.
I am not ascribing any intent to harm or otherwise supporting the views espoused by Ardis in the documentary. However, what is most interesting to me is to explore further how drugs derived from venomous sources offer both therapeutic benefits and side effects beyond that which we currently understand. Consideration has to be given to effects beyond what is intended. If the “side” effects of Rem are consistent with effects found in envenomation, this would offer additional treatment options to clinicians in emergency departments. For example, the use of certain monoclonals related to snake bite envenomation might be useful. I’m just opining here.
This is not an easy subject to discuss but the inaccuracies/conclusions drawn by Ardis need to be addressed as you have so well done here. This ain’t over yet.
What are the treatment options to address the negative effects of Remdesivir?
Dr. Kory, will your new book be available in audio format? I read almost all books by listening to them. I'm a really busy person; listening to books works out well for me because I can do it while washing dishes, cleaning house, tending my woodstove, and so on.
good question!! I will ask.. but like Sylvester Stallone, I will insist I have to be the one that records it! :) (with the occasional F-bomb..)
Looking forward to your audio recording, complete with F-bombs!
BTW, as you might or might not know, last night on the Zoom several people expressed interest in an audio version of your book.
interesting! Thanks for this will pass it on
We lost our 40-year old daughter to COVID-19 (alpha) back on 12/12/20. The treatment protocol was flawed....just plain wrong. Three grandchildren in Germany with no mom. My wife and I came down with COVID-19 (delta) in November 2021. Our self-dosing with Ivermectin was not increased to 2X as we were ignorant of the tenacity of the delta variant. My wife was hospitalized for five days in early December and received Remdesivir. Last week she went to the ER with Panceatitis. We no longer trust the NIH, CDC, FDA, Fauci, The Media, Mainstream medical.
Wow. Of course I am sorry to hear your story.. but glad your wife survived hospital, not enough do. Time to rebuild the agencies with a force field shutting out direct pharma corporation control..
I agree.
Thanks for the comprehensive description. Only truth can combat the lies we are flooded with. The major problem with censorship is it sets everyone up for ignorance - especially and including the perpetrators. It is up to all of us to individually access the truth of what is put forth. This entire situation is based on an attempt to control the population through fear. Problem for them is that many refuse to accept this.
Dr. Kory , would have prophylactic treatment with Ivermectin helped those prior to the jab, to decrease side effects? Thanks.
As always: My hero Pierre Kory!
I've been looking askance at Ardis for quite a while (a year?). He was spot-on in identifying and publicizing the ebola trial that Fauci fraudulently claimed showed Run-deathisnear to be safe-and-effective. He had sort-of established some credibility, but not enough to counterbalance the ... odd .. things he also put out (and his spotty/scattered background). Anytime I'd send out info he was pushing to friends and family; I'd include my ... reservations ... about him and his background. This was his deathblow... Even IF he finds good info going forward; I cannot rely on him correctly interpreting it or synthesizing it with anything else.
Thanks for spending some of your oh-so-valuable time clearing this up!
I agree completely
Thank you. Was hoping you would dissect this. Enough going on in big Pharma bizarro world…run by snakes.