Here I present an epidemiologic study suggesting population-wide shedding impacts, case notes of patients sensitive to shedding, and social media reports.
Besides all your points, the vaccine was already developed in the 90s and origin covid known since 50s/60s. It's well planned. I found a video from EU parliament where it's well discussed by one man, who already warned all of the 10 years ago... SARS is manmade, that's why it's way more mortal than Covid. There are differences as well with the vaccines.
I am 76 now and married. I did not take the jab but my wife did, twice, against my advice. After the first jab in May, I developed severe pain in the right hip which stayed with me for months, gradually subsiding by the following Xmas. I had had no hip problems before this. Then, in the January, it came back. I said to her, "You haven't had another jab have you? My hip is bad again." She denied it at first, but later confessed to having had another injection in early January.
OK, this may not be proof, and effects on the joints are not well reported but hey, there may be many more out there right?
and now?, My hip, although somewhat recovered, is pretty buggerd. I walk with a limp and with pain. But then, that's age related right? When you have gery hair, everything is age related right? I wonder when they're going to invent the age related broken leg?
I am a retired Infectious Disease / Vaccine Preventable Epidemiologist (I opened the first HIV/AIDS Unit in the world right after Graduation with my MPH, at Loma Linda Univ SPH.
I did not take the vaccine, I knew the C19 was a BW and suspected the vaccine as it rolled out too fast, and a few other things like Human Fetal Cells. 12/16/2020
I went to my friend's house in remote UP- MI and we had a poker game after pot luck. in May 2021 about 5 hours in basement reck room.
A few days after, I felt fluish, it continued to get worse over the coming 4-5 days to the point I went in to the ER cause I had SOB and CP. (hospital is > 1 hour away)
Then I remember them talking about shedding. My neighbor (f,39) got the vax in Late Jan. Within 4 weeks, her unvaxed husband (m,39) was been hospitalized x2 for MI
So I stayed away from people for a bit. In Oct 2021, Target was very crowded... again it happened, feverish, HA, Bloody nose, and by 3 day Chest pain.
Thank God for Amazon and ordering groceries on line.
Isolated some-more. I live 22 miles in the rural area. I would have problems when accute vax was ongoing, at church.
As the vaccinations started to slow down, being in off time grocery store I could go in.
In 2022, It happened when in crowded clinics, which I felt I had to go.
In 2023 I occasionally had problems but could resume going to church. (My husband made me do a trial of 3-4 months of Nanokinase.
I ordered some week and 1/2 ago. And Bromide. (So had not restarted)
This last week Tuesday, Was in a waiting room with 5-6 children.
Today is Sunday and I am still recovering.
I take IVM, 2x a week, daily Zinc 50mg, Vit C 3000 gm, Vit D 100,000 IU a week. Since late 2020.
I only get sick when I get in a crowd of newly vaccinated people.
My question, is do you clear the ability to keep making S1 IgE, and have IgG showing Recovery if you're not getting anything but exposure? My symptoms have gotten less intense.. sleep, HA, Nose Bleeds... occasional sporadic CP.
I have just finished 9 weeks of terrible diarrhea! My Kineisiologist says I have been shed on by recently vaxed person. Now I am doing better after 10 days on Augmented NAC. Should I have the colonoscopy my Dr says I should have?
I had to google what that was. How do you know you can trust what they say? Is any high profile substack doctor endorsing their product? Have they published anywhere? What they claim to be doing seems unlikely.
Greeting, author. Interesting and insightful article. I do have a question. Well, a couple.
Firstly, what is the estimated threshold for symptoms appearing in a person after some route of transmission of spike protein nano-particles from a vaccinated individual shedding? How many particles will elicit a response?
Secondly, there have been wide reports of women experiencing menstrual irregularities, including many anecdotes that are dismissed, after having fallen ill with COVID, or even after a brief exposure to someone who had tested positive for COVID.
And, so many walk/ed around infected, we really don't know every time each of us is exposed. How can you isolate these women's menstrual changes from changes that might have been due to having experienced a brief bout of "silent COVID" which introduced spike proteins via a different route?
All symptoms can be from shedding. But the most common are vertigo, headaches, stomach issues, arthritic pain, and it varies in length of time.
The microbiome is completely wiped out when individuals take these injections and since there are any symptoms possible from shedding - stomach and digestion issues are occurring too.
Probiotics are important they build up our overall immune system and if it’s wiped out it takes a long time to build it back to a healthy level.
Bifida is an important part of that microbiome.
Fermented foods are excellent sources for colon Heath. In addition to a good quality probiotic.
Vertigo if triggered specifically by exposure from others who have been injected with mRNA - that’s shedding and using the detox protocols may be a very good option. If your vertigo is caused by another issue, like a dislodged inner ear Crystal. That needs to be reset usually by a physical therapist that also works with a neurologist- however the maneuvers are available to utilize if you’re aware that’s the cause there is a device call dizzy fix invented and made by a dr to specifically treat that type of vertigo. You can purchase that device online. Dizzyfix.com
If it’s caused by shedding keep your immune system strong, I have found success using a combo of bromelain, nattokinase, and turmeric. I used that combo for two days straight after my recent exposure and that combination helped me. Currently my exposures are minimal and occurred outside - inside exposures to shedding are significantly worse. If you can try ivermectin that is extremely helpful for many people- for some it’s not enough.
I am an (unvaxinated) Optometrist, and despite working in close proximity to many people every day, I rarely get sick and almost never get headaches. After the Vaccine roll out, I became ill 5 times in a 6-9 month period. My symptoms were extreme fatigue, headache, and body aches. My symptoms always came on suddenly and lasted for 24-36 hours and were gone. I am a relatively healthy person, and at 54 years old, take no prescription medications and have no medical issues. I thought these illness were strange and I even had my thyroid checked and was tested for lyme disease. All my bloodwork came back fine. I knew in my gut I was sick from shedding. Thank you for speaking out about this, and confirming I'm not crazy! haha!
I am a retired MD and live 3 Km from a small town in southern France, am not vaccinated, and only occasionally come into normal social contact with others who are or most likely are vaccinated. During the past year I experienced acute vertigo making it impossible to get out of bed for 48 hours. Over the next few months I casually found out -- in normal conversation -- that 6 others in my area had experienced the same illness. My vertigo gradually lessened. ENT said it was a viral illness and that it would take more time to go away. It's been over 6 months, but it hardly bothers me any more. I do not know how may near me experienced the same thing, but it is certainly suspicious for shedding, even due to minimal physical contact. My significant other did not have it.
Thank you Dr. Kory for this series of extensive reviews, that's the growing tragedy on top of what the covid injected victims are already experiencing... I can only confirm quite few of the side effects involving the exposure to the 'vaccinates', genetically modified victims. Did mention that already but my own experience is showing, that the more old style vaccines in ones own body, the worse is the influence of the covid shots. Without reading all 9 posts, I'd hope to hear what is the primary reason for the side effects spread, pure presence of the Spike protein or actually the nano's carrying the Spike genome??? The latter case would imply a hope of specific HEALTHY nanolipids, which could enclose the toxic stuff and eliminate.. The most recent article by a german molecular geneticist implies that supplementation with LITHIUM (~1mg/day) will affect the brain fog experience by many, unfortunately in German:
Some sources were claiming a presence of the radioactive Cs in the shots, which in turn make sense, that lithium eliminates the 'equivalent' valence metal from the body...
Not to make light of a serious topic but I am reminded of a line from Monty Python: "A fart in your general direction". The threat seems more valid now then before I read this article.
- I have a cousin: "3 Moderna and 1 booster", whatever that means.
- Last booster was 4 months ago.
- His mom is unvax'd and healthy at 80.
- If she goes to visit her son for a few days in his house for Thanksgiving, and he sheds after the booster(s),
***what is her possible danger***??? That she gets covid? That she now has a Spike protein factory in her, too? I need to know because she lives with MY unvax'd parents!! Will she be a threat to my parents then??
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Update: Well, we decided no way was anyone going to spend long amounts of time next to someone newly vaxd. He is a new father now anyways (adopted 2 kids), so he needs to buck up and be a father to his kids. Still wish I had an answer to my original question though, because it will come up eventually again.
I’m so sorry for your urgency but completely understand your concern. They are real and justified.
It is not certain she will develop a reaction but it is a very good chance. Weigh all your options and concerns. Are there other health issues involved?
There have been a few specific mentions about shedding reactions from holiday get togethers, weddings, outdoor exposure and sleeping in a bed a vaccinated person previous slept in as well as reactions from someone who had a cleaning business cleaning hotel rooms and becoming so ill from cleaning the rooms . So yes, that means it does linger and transfers after people are gone.
Many situations are unavoidable but if you decided to spend time with others, do what you can to protect your immune system.
Use the detox and preventive protocols - they work for vaccinated as well as shedding. If you can also use ivermectin that is an added benefit.
There are many details mentioned throughout these 9 separate articles of info with helpful protocol details and what can help.
I’ve mentioned some of them myself in a few replies. Others have also offered some helpful advice all worth looking into.
Unfortunately, my aunt and her son are "lost causes" and wouldn't ever do any protocol or supplements.
So, my greatest concern is her coming back after her visit with him because she lives with my parents who are unvax'd. My dad also won't do any supplements.
Need to know as of right now, what do we know about that sort of "3rd person transfer" I described of my aunt visiting my boosted cousin and coming back into our house??
I’m so sorry. There is no definitive way to know what could occur.
Will his 80 yr old mom be using any form of plane or crowded transportation to travel? That is also significant exposure.
Had she been out and active day to day exposed to anyone - shopping, in restaurants, church services, hair salons, nail salons, meeting with friends or in any capacity where she is exposed to others who are probably shedding. All of it is a risk. Not just the visit to see her son.
The knowledge of him having his booster 4 months ago, in addition to 3 prior injections of moderna would probably mean he is actively producing spike but how much ? There is no way to know.
Does he take preventive measures too? Any possibility he’s aware now? Most Individuals who have taken these injections are also using the protocols to help detox from spike toxicity.
No one can make that choice for you to know what is best.
Yes, some individuals have developed Covid from their shedding exposures in different situations. Others have developed symptoms that go away
And still others have health issues that lingered.
But each person who developed a reaction or was aware tris to utilize some type of protocols to detox. If they are unwilling to try them. That is their choice too. Maybe setting up a telehealth visit to speak to someone at the leading edge clinic would help. Hearing the details and all the clarity up to this point and time ? Maybe that can help his mom, all of you. Not everyone believes in avoiding others but the reality is that there is a concern and a risk.
It is a struggle and a concern. You have to step out in faith and review all of your choices. Weigh all the pros and cons and do what is best for her and for all of you. It’s okay to decide not to go. It’s up to her, to all of you. Share the info, be transparent- help inform her. That’s all you can do.
Are others who are shedding also going to be in the house? The number of individuals who took the injections increases the amount of spike shedding within the same household, or any environment.
No sharing of bed linens or towels as it can also linger if it’s occurring within the house. ( is that shared hand towel in bathroom a problem or not?For some people it is.)The woman who cleaned houses for a living for 20 yrs had to close her business- but that was from repeated shedding exposure. It made her ill.
But that would also apply to any other location - airports, clothes shopping, grocery stores, eating inside or outside at restaurants, any group of people you’re exposed to or she’s exposed to could be shedding.
There is no guarantee either way that shedding will or won’t impact at those times.
My own exposure to others who are continuing to get these injections has caused me to develop vertigo symptoms. Although the healthy preventive protocols have helped significantly I will not put myself in that type of group situation as I know it will cause a problem.
Many people have health issues from being exposed to others who receive these injections and others don’t exhibit any reaction.
Each decision is situational and based on what is best for you each time.
My biggest concern is her bringing the excess spike back with her into my parents home where she lives, and then on top of it bringing it to me then at work where we all work together. Yes her son, his wife, and their mother whom they live with are all shot up and boosted. Yes, she will be flying.
The problem is, my aunt and her son and his wife are all on the "spectrum", so their abilities to think clearly are severely compromised. She takes it as offensive that she and her son are being labeled as "dirty" rather than acknowledging the realities of the spike and everything else involved. Her mentality is "He's been ok so far so he's ok". He is overweight and sluggish in nature, so there are rarely spikes of adrenaline or the like in his daily activities. Upsetness, definitely, but no physical exertion, etc.
Ironically enough, my immediate family all had covid 3 weeks ago. We 3 had "the flu" (but kaiser swab said covid), but her only symptom was 2 days of totally random severe vertigo. She fell into me while walking by, and also hit her head on the wall when she turned. She has lifelong migraines so that is her weakness. Seems the vertigo went away as fast as it came. We all worked through it as we don't have the luxury of taking any days off, ever. (Don't worry, our job is situated/set up that we are sequestered from the public).
I do understand your concern. The exposure and bringing it back to you, your family. It’s scary.
The other family members with disabilities are in their own choice of day to day routines and habits. In many situations being on the spectrum is more challenging.
Traveling on a plane - the airports- is exposing yourself to anything. That is one of the worst exposures we all face. That is significant. And If you’re not actively making an effort to keep your immune system as healthy as possible or use something to help kill and reduce viral load and exposure - you’re taking a chance.
Add to it the daily habits you say you’re aware of regarding her son and the other members also in the house. There is more than one individual shedding, and possibly not detail oriented enough to know the levels of cross contamination hygienic habits ( sheets, linens, towels as well as the possibility of all the other forms of of it.)
Knowing that you mentioned that your other family members are adamant about not taking any preventive measures or protocols supplements-
and separately there are several( 3 or more )who have what is described to be several injections - combined with their habits at the sons home.
Your sense of urgency and wanting to know about cross exposure is real. Yes, it can happen. But it is not the only manner in which it can happen.
The shedding can occur. The cross exposure can to occur. It can come into your parents home, into your home whether she visits her son or not.
The concern about her being elderly, her choice to not want any preventive protocols if needed.
She’s at risk being on the plane and the airports More exposure from more people in recirculating air, in active cold flu season. She could pick up viral particles on the plane and bring them into her sons home as well as being exposed from her son from being there...It’s a vicious cycle.
There are always risks, but many people still choose to visit others and spend time in close contact.
There are many factors to consider. As previously mentioned the other day. Cross exposure/ third party transfer of shedding and bringing it back home to you, it is all possible but it is not only possible from that one environment- it is possible from any environment. The hair salon, nail salons, restaurants, the grocery store, the gym, and public bathroom, clothes shopping, offices where most people spend several hours a day , public transit, malls, the list is endless and They are all possible to bring home an exposure - it can occur.
There are also many people exposed daily who are not experiencing any symptoms of shedding.
There is NO possible way to know 100% when that cross contamination will occur.
I cannot make this decision for you. But if it were my own family member, I would request that they don’t put themselves in that specific situation right now until more is known and understood about the risks. If there is a better option, perhaps something more limited that you’re comfortable with as well.
It is weighing so heavy on you. I feel your pain. I’m praying for your weight to be lifted and for you to be able to have peace trying to make this difficult decision. It is not easy.
We can choose to isolate or we can educate ourselves on the preventive options and exposures and mitigate it. The one thing you don’t want is for her to become ill when she is away. Who will take care of her if she should become ill if she decides to stay there? There are no guarantees. What if she is exposed during a hair appointment? What if she becomes sick from exposure there? She would have to return home anyway.
I’m reiterating these things because it can happen from any of those places. But whatever your heartfelt experience and knowledge of the environment with her son and that more lengthy exposure is making you worry more about everyone she comes in contact with when coming home.
There is also a plane ride home. That exposure is the worst. The plane. Many people get sick after holidays just from all the exposure to everyone.
What does she do to help herself now or in the past if she feels sick?
It seems you need more time to be comfortable. Do what is best for all of you this time. Even if you feel delaying this get together temporarily will help, you have a lot to think about.
Let's see. In the seventies or eighties, pediatricians pushed the parents of their patients to get their children immunized against polio. AFTER the shots were given, the pediatrician warned parents (I was one) we could get polio just from changing our child's/children's diapers.
Of course, no other shot could expose others to something the shot produced. Yeah, that's it. [end sarcasm font]
I am about to get on a plane for the first time since Covid hit, and now I am concerned about sitting next to someone and being shed on. There is just no way to avoid this evil, is there?
Besides all your points, the vaccine was already developed in the 90s and origin covid known since 50s/60s. It's well planned. I found a video from EU parliament where it's well discussed by one man, who already warned all of the 10 years ago... SARS is manmade, that's why it's way more mortal than Covid. There are differences as well with the vaccines.
I am 76 now and married. I did not take the jab but my wife did, twice, against my advice. After the first jab in May, I developed severe pain in the right hip which stayed with me for months, gradually subsiding by the following Xmas. I had had no hip problems before this. Then, in the January, it came back. I said to her, "You haven't had another jab have you? My hip is bad again." She denied it at first, but later confessed to having had another injection in early January.
OK, this may not be proof, and effects on the joints are not well reported but hey, there may be many more out there right?
and now?, My hip, although somewhat recovered, is pretty buggerd. I walk with a limp and with pain. But then, that's age related right? When you have gery hair, everything is age related right? I wonder when they're going to invent the age related broken leg?
Many more.
I always believed shedding was taking place. I have begun to suffer from vertigo as well. Thanks Faith for your post.
I am a retired Infectious Disease / Vaccine Preventable Epidemiologist (I opened the first HIV/AIDS Unit in the world right after Graduation with my MPH, at Loma Linda Univ SPH.
I did not take the vaccine, I knew the C19 was a BW and suspected the vaccine as it rolled out too fast, and a few other things like Human Fetal Cells. 12/16/2020
I went to my friend's house in remote UP- MI and we had a poker game after pot luck. in May 2021 about 5 hours in basement reck room.
A few days after, I felt fluish, it continued to get worse over the coming 4-5 days to the point I went in to the ER cause I had SOB and CP. (hospital is > 1 hour away)
Then I remember them talking about shedding. My neighbor (f,39) got the vax in Late Jan. Within 4 weeks, her unvaxed husband (m,39) was been hospitalized x2 for MI
So I stayed away from people for a bit. In Oct 2021, Target was very crowded... again it happened, feverish, HA, Bloody nose, and by 3 day Chest pain.
Thank God for Amazon and ordering groceries on line.
Isolated some-more. I live 22 miles in the rural area. I would have problems when accute vax was ongoing, at church.
As the vaccinations started to slow down, being in off time grocery store I could go in.
In 2022, It happened when in crowded clinics, which I felt I had to go.
In 2023 I occasionally had problems but could resume going to church. (My husband made me do a trial of 3-4 months of Nanokinase.
I ordered some week and 1/2 ago. And Bromide. (So had not restarted)
This last week Tuesday, Was in a waiting room with 5-6 children.
Today is Sunday and I am still recovering.
I take IVM, 2x a week, daily Zinc 50mg, Vit C 3000 gm, Vit D 100,000 IU a week. Since late 2020.
I only get sick when I get in a crowd of newly vaccinated people.
My question, is do you clear the ability to keep making S1 IgE, and have IgG showing Recovery if you're not getting anything but exposure? My symptoms have gotten less intense.. sleep, HA, Nose Bleeds... occasional sporadic CP.
igG4 test for Spike antibody
I have just finished 9 weeks of terrible diarrhea! My Kineisiologist says I have been shed on by recently vaxed person. Now I am doing better after 10 days on Augmented NAC. Should I have the colonoscopy my Dr says I should have?
Dosing?
I had to google what that was. How do you know you can trust what they say? Is any high profile substack doctor endorsing their product? Have they published anywhere? What they claim to be doing seems unlikely.
God bless you Dr. Pierre Kory!
Greeting, author. Interesting and insightful article. I do have a question. Well, a couple.
Firstly, what is the estimated threshold for symptoms appearing in a person after some route of transmission of spike protein nano-particles from a vaccinated individual shedding? How many particles will elicit a response?
Secondly, there have been wide reports of women experiencing menstrual irregularities, including many anecdotes that are dismissed, after having fallen ill with COVID, or even after a brief exposure to someone who had tested positive for COVID.
And, so many walk/ed around infected, we really don't know every time each of us is exposed. How can you isolate these women's menstrual changes from changes that might have been due to having experienced a brief bout of "silent COVID" which introduced spike proteins via a different route?
Thanks, kindly.
what are the symptoms of shedding?
I have had neurological migraines since summer 2021 and colon spasms since 2022... wondering if it's related.
All symptoms can be from shedding. But the most common are vertigo, headaches, stomach issues, arthritic pain, and it varies in length of time.
The microbiome is completely wiped out when individuals take these injections and since there are any symptoms possible from shedding - stomach and digestion issues are occurring too.
Probiotics are important they build up our overall immune system and if it’s wiped out it takes a long time to build it back to a healthy level.
Bifida is an important part of that microbiome.
Fermented foods are excellent sources for colon Heath. In addition to a good quality probiotic.
Faith, I am suffering too from vertigo. What do you do when you have a flare up? I teach and it is almost impossible to get through the day.
Vertigo if triggered specifically by exposure from others who have been injected with mRNA - that’s shedding and using the detox protocols may be a very good option. If your vertigo is caused by another issue, like a dislodged inner ear Crystal. That needs to be reset usually by a physical therapist that also works with a neurologist- however the maneuvers are available to utilize if you’re aware that’s the cause there is a device call dizzy fix invented and made by a dr to specifically treat that type of vertigo. You can purchase that device online. Dizzyfix.com
If it’s caused by shedding keep your immune system strong, I have found success using a combo of bromelain, nattokinase, and turmeric. I used that combo for two days straight after my recent exposure and that combination helped me. Currently my exposures are minimal and occurred outside - inside exposures to shedding are significantly worse. If you can try ivermectin that is extremely helpful for many people- for some it’s not enough.
My apologies for not seeing this post sooner.
I am an (unvaxinated) Optometrist, and despite working in close proximity to many people every day, I rarely get sick and almost never get headaches. After the Vaccine roll out, I became ill 5 times in a 6-9 month period. My symptoms were extreme fatigue, headache, and body aches. My symptoms always came on suddenly and lasted for 24-36 hours and were gone. I am a relatively healthy person, and at 54 years old, take no prescription medications and have no medical issues. I thought these illness were strange and I even had my thyroid checked and was tested for lyme disease. All my bloodwork came back fine. I knew in my gut I was sick from shedding. Thank you for speaking out about this, and confirming I'm not crazy! haha!
I am a retired MD and live 3 Km from a small town in southern France, am not vaccinated, and only occasionally come into normal social contact with others who are or most likely are vaccinated. During the past year I experienced acute vertigo making it impossible to get out of bed for 48 hours. Over the next few months I casually found out -- in normal conversation -- that 6 others in my area had experienced the same illness. My vertigo gradually lessened. ENT said it was a viral illness and that it would take more time to go away. It's been over 6 months, but it hardly bothers me any more. I do not know how may near me experienced the same thing, but it is certainly suspicious for shedding, even due to minimal physical contact. My significant other did not have it.
Thank you Dr. Kory for this series of extensive reviews, that's the growing tragedy on top of what the covid injected victims are already experiencing... I can only confirm quite few of the side effects involving the exposure to the 'vaccinates', genetically modified victims. Did mention that already but my own experience is showing, that the more old style vaccines in ones own body, the worse is the influence of the covid shots. Without reading all 9 posts, I'd hope to hear what is the primary reason for the side effects spread, pure presence of the Spike protein or actually the nano's carrying the Spike genome??? The latter case would imply a hope of specific HEALTHY nanolipids, which could enclose the toxic stuff and eliminate.. The most recent article by a german molecular geneticist implies that supplementation with LITHIUM (~1mg/day) will affect the brain fog experience by many, unfortunately in German:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NihWh2xrZgc
https://michael-nehls.de/infos/lithium/
Some sources were claiming a presence of the radioactive Cs in the shots, which in turn make sense, that lithium eliminates the 'equivalent' valence metal from the body...
Not to make light of a serious topic but I am reminded of a line from Monty Python: "A fart in your general direction". The threat seems more valid now then before I read this article.
DR. KORY!! PLEASE answer for me!!!
- I have a cousin: "3 Moderna and 1 booster", whatever that means.
- Last booster was 4 months ago.
- His mom is unvax'd and healthy at 80.
- If she goes to visit her son for a few days in his house for Thanksgiving, and he sheds after the booster(s),
***what is her possible danger***??? That she gets covid? That she now has a Spike protein factory in her, too? I need to know because she lives with MY unvax'd parents!! Will she be a threat to my parents then??
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Update: Well, we decided no way was anyone going to spend long amounts of time next to someone newly vaxd. He is a new father now anyways (adopted 2 kids), so he needs to buck up and be a father to his kids. Still wish I had an answer to my original question though, because it will come up eventually again.
I’m so sorry for your urgency but completely understand your concern. They are real and justified.
It is not certain she will develop a reaction but it is a very good chance. Weigh all your options and concerns. Are there other health issues involved?
There have been a few specific mentions about shedding reactions from holiday get togethers, weddings, outdoor exposure and sleeping in a bed a vaccinated person previous slept in as well as reactions from someone who had a cleaning business cleaning hotel rooms and becoming so ill from cleaning the rooms . So yes, that means it does linger and transfers after people are gone.
Many situations are unavoidable but if you decided to spend time with others, do what you can to protect your immune system.
Use the detox and preventive protocols - they work for vaccinated as well as shedding. If you can also use ivermectin that is an added benefit.
There are many details mentioned throughout these 9 separate articles of info with helpful protocol details and what can help.
I’ve mentioned some of them myself in a few replies. Others have also offered some helpful advice all worth looking into.
Flccc protocols vitamins / supplements/ ivermectin
Base detox Combo of Natto, bromelain turmeric
Spike support from the wellness company
Faith - why Wellness product so $$$$&?
Unfortunately, my aunt and her son are "lost causes" and wouldn't ever do any protocol or supplements.
So, my greatest concern is her coming back after her visit with him because she lives with my parents who are unvax'd. My dad also won't do any supplements.
Need to know as of right now, what do we know about that sort of "3rd person transfer" I described of my aunt visiting my boosted cousin and coming back into our house??
I’m so sorry. There is no definitive way to know what could occur.
Will his 80 yr old mom be using any form of plane or crowded transportation to travel? That is also significant exposure.
Had she been out and active day to day exposed to anyone - shopping, in restaurants, church services, hair salons, nail salons, meeting with friends or in any capacity where she is exposed to others who are probably shedding. All of it is a risk. Not just the visit to see her son.
The knowledge of him having his booster 4 months ago, in addition to 3 prior injections of moderna would probably mean he is actively producing spike but how much ? There is no way to know.
Does he take preventive measures too? Any possibility he’s aware now? Most Individuals who have taken these injections are also using the protocols to help detox from spike toxicity.
No one can make that choice for you to know what is best.
Yes, some individuals have developed Covid from their shedding exposures in different situations. Others have developed symptoms that go away
And still others have health issues that lingered.
But each person who developed a reaction or was aware tris to utilize some type of protocols to detox. If they are unwilling to try them. That is their choice too. Maybe setting up a telehealth visit to speak to someone at the leading edge clinic would help. Hearing the details and all the clarity up to this point and time ? Maybe that can help his mom, all of you. Not everyone believes in avoiding others but the reality is that there is a concern and a risk.
It is a struggle and a concern. You have to step out in faith and review all of your choices. Weigh all the pros and cons and do what is best for her and for all of you. It’s okay to decide not to go. It’s up to her, to all of you. Share the info, be transparent- help inform her. That’s all you can do.
Are others who are shedding also going to be in the house? The number of individuals who took the injections increases the amount of spike shedding within the same household, or any environment.
No sharing of bed linens or towels as it can also linger if it’s occurring within the house. ( is that shared hand towel in bathroom a problem or not?For some people it is.)The woman who cleaned houses for a living for 20 yrs had to close her business- but that was from repeated shedding exposure. It made her ill.
But that would also apply to any other location - airports, clothes shopping, grocery stores, eating inside or outside at restaurants, any group of people you’re exposed to or she’s exposed to could be shedding.
There is no guarantee either way that shedding will or won’t impact at those times.
My own exposure to others who are continuing to get these injections has caused me to develop vertigo symptoms. Although the healthy preventive protocols have helped significantly I will not put myself in that type of group situation as I know it will cause a problem.
Many people have health issues from being exposed to others who receive these injections and others don’t exhibit any reaction.
Each decision is situational and based on what is best for you each time.
My biggest concern is her bringing the excess spike back with her into my parents home where she lives, and then on top of it bringing it to me then at work where we all work together. Yes her son, his wife, and their mother whom they live with are all shot up and boosted. Yes, she will be flying.
The problem is, my aunt and her son and his wife are all on the "spectrum", so their abilities to think clearly are severely compromised. She takes it as offensive that she and her son are being labeled as "dirty" rather than acknowledging the realities of the spike and everything else involved. Her mentality is "He's been ok so far so he's ok". He is overweight and sluggish in nature, so there are rarely spikes of adrenaline or the like in his daily activities. Upsetness, definitely, but no physical exertion, etc.
Ironically enough, my immediate family all had covid 3 weeks ago. We 3 had "the flu" (but kaiser swab said covid), but her only symptom was 2 days of totally random severe vertigo. She fell into me while walking by, and also hit her head on the wall when she turned. She has lifelong migraines so that is her weakness. Seems the vertigo went away as fast as it came. We all worked through it as we don't have the luxury of taking any days off, ever. (Don't worry, our job is situated/set up that we are sequestered from the public).
I do understand your concern. The exposure and bringing it back to you, your family. It’s scary.
The other family members with disabilities are in their own choice of day to day routines and habits. In many situations being on the spectrum is more challenging.
Traveling on a plane - the airports- is exposing yourself to anything. That is one of the worst exposures we all face. That is significant. And If you’re not actively making an effort to keep your immune system as healthy as possible or use something to help kill and reduce viral load and exposure - you’re taking a chance.
Add to it the daily habits you say you’re aware of regarding her son and the other members also in the house. There is more than one individual shedding, and possibly not detail oriented enough to know the levels of cross contamination hygienic habits ( sheets, linens, towels as well as the possibility of all the other forms of of it.)
Knowing that you mentioned that your other family members are adamant about not taking any preventive measures or protocols supplements-
and separately there are several( 3 or more )who have what is described to be several injections - combined with their habits at the sons home.
Your sense of urgency and wanting to know about cross exposure is real. Yes, it can happen. But it is not the only manner in which it can happen.
The shedding can occur. The cross exposure can to occur. It can come into your parents home, into your home whether she visits her son or not.
The concern about her being elderly, her choice to not want any preventive protocols if needed.
She’s at risk being on the plane and the airports More exposure from more people in recirculating air, in active cold flu season. She could pick up viral particles on the plane and bring them into her sons home as well as being exposed from her son from being there...It’s a vicious cycle.
There are always risks, but many people still choose to visit others and spend time in close contact.
There are many factors to consider. As previously mentioned the other day. Cross exposure/ third party transfer of shedding and bringing it back home to you, it is all possible but it is not only possible from that one environment- it is possible from any environment. The hair salon, nail salons, restaurants, the grocery store, the gym, and public bathroom, clothes shopping, offices where most people spend several hours a day , public transit, malls, the list is endless and They are all possible to bring home an exposure - it can occur.
There are also many people exposed daily who are not experiencing any symptoms of shedding.
There is NO possible way to know 100% when that cross contamination will occur.
I cannot make this decision for you. But if it were my own family member, I would request that they don’t put themselves in that specific situation right now until more is known and understood about the risks. If there is a better option, perhaps something more limited that you’re comfortable with as well.
It is weighing so heavy on you. I feel your pain. I’m praying for your weight to be lifted and for you to be able to have peace trying to make this difficult decision. It is not easy.
We can choose to isolate or we can educate ourselves on the preventive options and exposures and mitigate it. The one thing you don’t want is for her to become ill when she is away. Who will take care of her if she should become ill if she decides to stay there? There are no guarantees. What if she is exposed during a hair appointment? What if she becomes sick from exposure there? She would have to return home anyway.
I’m reiterating these things because it can happen from any of those places. But whatever your heartfelt experience and knowledge of the environment with her son and that more lengthy exposure is making you worry more about everyone she comes in contact with when coming home.
There is also a plane ride home. That exposure is the worst. The plane. Many people get sick after holidays just from all the exposure to everyone.
What does she do to help herself now or in the past if she feels sick?
It seems you need more time to be comfortable. Do what is best for all of you this time. Even if you feel delaying this get together temporarily will help, you have a lot to think about.
Let's see. In the seventies or eighties, pediatricians pushed the parents of their patients to get their children immunized against polio. AFTER the shots were given, the pediatrician warned parents (I was one) we could get polio just from changing our child's/children's diapers.
Of course, no other shot could expose others to something the shot produced. Yeah, that's it. [end sarcasm font]
I am about to get on a plane for the first time since Covid hit, and now I am concerned about sitting next to someone and being shed on. There is just no way to avoid this evil, is there?
Using preventive protocols ahead of exposures can help you. Do that before getting on any plane.
There are safe nasal washes, gargles,
If you can use the preventive protocols on flccc they are there for detox and help shedding
Ivermectin, taken ahead of time
Bromelain Natto & Tumeric bare minimum to detox from shedding ( in between meals)
Ivermectin taken with fat soluble food
Flccc protocols
Spike support from the wellness company
Many tidbits of healthy options and details written throughout the replies in the 9 segments of the articles.
I hope you’re able to find what you need prior to the flight. But it’s still helpful as soon as possible.
Thank you so much. I will look into this.
CDL is highly recommended as well
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+self+spreading+vaccines&va=q&t=hf&ia=web
they have been working on self-spreading vaccines for decades