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Choe's avatar

Thanks for the article. I’m still failing to see how manually adding minerals drops to RO water is dangerously insufficient?

For example, adding adequate amounts of the product Concentrace to the water (which is derived from the Great Salt Lakes) seems to be sufficient for most RO users.

Nod Dranoel's avatar

No thank you.

Aluminum can potentially increase fluoride’s biological uptake, including to the brain. While poorly maintained chemical filters can introduce this condition, adding a layer of chemical complexity that distillation does not. So why risk it?

" Aluminum–fluoride complexes find an easier path to the brain than fluoride alone — both through increased mobility and mimicry of biological signaling molecules. When filtration systems introduce both ingredients under the right conditions, this interaction becomes chemically and biologically relevant.

This interaction does not occur in distillation because distillation does not involve residual media or metal ions..

Because most users do not monitor breakthrough or chemistry, distillation offers a more predictable and low-risk approach for long-term use, even if it is less energy-efficient.

Experimental literature shows that aluminum–fluoride complexes exhibit greater biological activity and mobility than fluoride alone, including interactions relevant to neural tissue. As a result, chemical filtration introduces a coupled dependence between fluoride concentration, aluminum release, and pH control—an interaction that does not occur in distillation-based separation."

Gpt 4.o

Dee's avatar

We have RO, but AI said that Aurmina won't "remineralize" our water, just "organize" it as stated. Should we still be adding liquid trace minerals along with the Aurmina? We add in Concentrace drops to our RO water already. Thank you.

Travis Ogle's avatar

Fascinating information. God frequently spoke of Himself as a source of “Living Water”, I believe there is a connection with that in your writings, but I haven’t yet satisfactory determined exactly what that connection looks like. Certainly, we were not created by God to be sickly, or imperfect beings, and your product just may help us restore that Godly health.

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

Travis my friend. You are touching on something which, late in the writing of my manuscript, appeared and transformed the entire book, taking me to places I never thought possible. It is one of the reasons that I took down the 38 chapters of what , I must now humbly admit, was but a draft. The "real" book will be published soon and I trust that the enormity of what is now in there will be as positively received as I am anticipating it will be

Celeste's avatar

I’m going to need your book! I’ve been using Aurmina for a week or two. It’s easy to add to a gallon of my RO filtered water. I just installed the under the sink RO filter a year ago. I will also try Aurmina with tap water now too.

It sounds like I can stop the Zeta Aid water now. I was squeezing in a couple 16oz servings of Zeta Aid water plus drinking Aurmina water during the day, separately. It also sounds like I can stop the liquid trace mineral drops too. I already eat fresh, whole, foods for minerals and supplement a few like iodine and boron.

So, Aurmina only, yes? No adding liquid trace minerals or salt, and no Zeta Aid ? What about adding a scoop of electrolyte powder?

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

I think you are all set given all that you wrote.. Rock on Celeste! LiTERALLY AND METAPHORICALLY :)

Tony Broomfield's avatar

Breton sea salt ranks #2 to the Celtic variety, with over 50 minerals in the first and over 90 in the latter. A single rock crystal of either, dissolved in the mouth each day should get your balance back quickly.

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

I promise this is not marketing but any salt is so full of sodium and chloride, that although they contain a breadth of minerals, the problem is depth - they have infinitesimally small amounts of that breadth...

Steve Mitchell's avatar

So it sounds like almost any water source might need to be periodically tested to insure purity even if the mineral content is not suspect.

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

agreed. I have a few more water posts coming and I will touch on this topic in one of them

Roboslob's avatar

Thanks for writing this and starting Aurmina! I'm considering purchasing. I currently use a ProOne gravity filtration system and am concerned it's removing too much beneficial minerals, or that they've already been removed by the municipal tap water system. If I use Aurmina, can I then use the ProOne system or would I need a less effective filter? Note that these filters claim to remove 97% of fluoride, which is why I purchased this system.

https://prooneusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/ProOne-G2.0-7212023.pdf

Results near the end of pdf:

Test Parameter, Influent Water Concentration, Filter Element ProOne® G2.0 Results, % Reduction

Calcium, 185 mg/L, 35 mg/L, 81.1

Magnesium, 18.5 mg/L, 19 mg/L, 0.0

Potassium, 40 mg/L, 39 mg/L, 2.5

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

I looked into it with AI, these were the most salient findings: noticeable reduction of certain dissolved constituents, including:

• Lead, aluminum, manganese, and copper — often reduced very effectively. ⚠ What it doesn’t systematically remove

• Total dissolved solids (TDS) — ProOne doesn’t actively lower TDS like RO does.

• Beneficial mineral ions in general (e.g., calcium, magnesium, potassium) are not targeted for removal and may remain NICE FILTER!

Roboslob's avatar

Thanks for the reply! The report I linked to shows an 81% reduction in calcium, but no magnesium reduction and very little potassium reduction. Do you think if I use Aurmina, the calcium reduction will be a problem?

I'm assuming the quality of my tap water sucks.

Brandy's avatar

I have been cooking with a sourdough starter for about 15 or so years. Sometimes sourdough starter can be a struggle. As I’ve learned more along my sourdough journey, I have taught small casual classes to friends and family and sometimes in the community.

About 5 or 6 years ago, maybe longer, I was using some spring water while staying at a remote cabin in the mountains. My starter was SO happy. Noticeably happier than usual. From that time, I would take drives to the mountains to fill containers of spring water just to use with my sourdough starter and it made such a difference.

I don’t always have the time now to drive out to fill containers with spring water so I found that store bought spring water works just as well. When I teach classes now, I encourage people to use spring water, especially if they’ve tried sourdough and haven’t had good results.

I have thought many times that if my sourdough thrives on spring water, but not on my tap water (well water that has been softened), maybe spring water is what humans should be drinking as well.

My bottle of aurmina arrives any day. I’ll definitely be experimenting with it to feed my sourdough starter to see how it behaves. And I’m looking forward to any healthy benefits that it may bring to me and my family. Thank you!

Roberta Stack's avatar

I just ordered a sourdough starter kit from a company that sells glyphosate free starter and flour. It arrives tomorrow and I’ll be curious to see how it all comes out using Aurmina water.

Brandy's avatar

Awesome! Let us know how it goes for you

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

Brandy. Me and Lisa have been getting into fresh milled grain bread (don't tell her but we (she) has along way to go.. You have to tell me how your sourdough does with aurmina treated water - I got a $100 that says you are going to be happy (if I win, you owe me a $1)

Brandy's avatar

Haha! Yes, freshly milled flour is a completely different beast but so worth it. My favorite wheat berries to use are the hard red from the Central Milling but it’s fun doing all sorts of blends, especially with the ancient grains. Once you get it figured out to make a decent loaf with FMF, you just have to acquire the taste for all that flavor and nutrition and then it’s such a treat. Can’t wait to test out the new water. I might be mailing you that dollar!

Jerry Bickle's avatar

I grind my own Wheat and also make sourdough and I use the Aurmina treated water to feed my starter with as well. Seems to work great.

Leila Kostyk's avatar

Hi Doc - question for you. I'm guessing that using Aurmina means that I will no longer need to supplement with any of the other mineral supplements I've been taking, and that doing so might actually interfere with Aurmina's actions. Correct? Pretty sure the actual situation is much more complex & will likely require testing, which I'm unlikely to be able to access or afford here in Canada, but would appreciate any guidance. Thanks much!

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

Actually, not true. First, the mineral content in treated water is tiny, and also, Aurmina, besides iron and sulfur, contains miniscule amounts of the "mainstream" minerals, i..e the ones you know the names of. Where it shines among all supplements is its breadth of bioavailable ultra-trace and rare-earth element minerals as it is dervied from biotite. As an example, in a teaspoon or Aurmina it has 1mg of magnesium and 1mg of potassium.

Dennis Rodgers's avatar

Question, "collapsing colloids," would seem to go the wrong way, in terms of zeta potential. How am I wrong? Obviously bicarb is positive for zeta, but the colloid is our blood, and structured water is, I believe, a key element. Not sure how that would happen, but if H3O2 is reversed to H2O, that would collapse the colloid, and be detrimental at least from what I understand from Pollack.

We use Berkey, which is only carbon/ceramic filtration. Necessary here in AZ, 'cuz we got some not-so-good s*** in our water. I've been supplementing trace minerals and baking soda. AND I'm still alive and thriving at 75, but starting to get a little concerned about things like bone density and mineralization in my arteries (former sugar junkie...).

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

Ah, you are conflating water chemistry with blood chemistry - these minerals could never and would never collapse a physiologic colloid in the blood stream. I have a patient who was dependent on zeta-aid for control of one of his symptoms, and after supplementing with Aurmina, no longer needs it. N of 1 I know.

Dennis Rodgers's avatar

10Q, doc. I knew you'd have the answer!!

TDoug's avatar

I have been drinking distilled water a long time. My health problems seem minimal, but nutrition and health are complex issues difficult to analyze. I am taking magnesium supplements and also drinking milk.

Nod Dranoel's avatar

"Agree, and I am not trying to fearmonger without basis, just trying to optimize health. I think a good counter example is that I smoked over a pack a day or 20 years and felt fine the whole time :)"

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA

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"Comparing lifelong distilled water use to smoking is a false and misleading analogy. Smoking is a known carcinogen with overwhelming epidemiological evidence of harm. Distilled water, by contrast, is simply water purified by phase separation, it contains no additives and introduces no new chemical species. Suggesting that "feeling fine now" might hide long-term harm, as with cigarettes, is a rhetorical move designed to invoke doubt without evidence. It implies a causal risk while explicitly denying the intent to fearmonger, a textbook narrative tactic. If someone believes distilled water poses harm, they should present a biological mechanism or clinical data. Otherwise, implying damage by analogy is not health optimization — it’s storytelling disguised as science."

Gpt 4.o

Tsk tsk. I saw the narrative immediately. Where is the harm from distilled water consumption then?

I have drank distilled water for 25 years, no harm. 62 years old in better health and fitness than most half my age. While after 10 years of smoking I felt like garbage because I was intaking POISON. It took me 10 more to quit. Yes, that is all anecdotal, but it is supported by science and fact.

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Seriously dude, bad analogy in every way.

"Cigarette smoking kills more than 8 million people per year worldwide, including over 1 million non-smokers exposed to secondhand smoke.

Source: World Health Organization (WHO), Tobacco Fact Sheet, 2023

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"Minerals in drinking water are a minor component of total intake. For most people, food provides adequate levels of essential nutrients."

(Source: WHO Guidelines for Drinking-Water Quality

TDoug's avatar

The water here appears to be very hard. I get lots of scale in the distiller which I assume is mostly calcium, but there could be other important minerals. I did start magnesium supplements and I do believe that helped. I originally started out probably 30 years to drink bottled water because I hate chlorine. I could not drink the city's chlorinated water. At some point I switched to bottled distilled water from the store, probably 10 years ago. About 5 years ago I bought a cheap distiller and started to make it myself.

Nod Dranoel's avatar

" Hi Doug, thanks for your honest input. You're right to trust your own experience — especially after decades of trying to get away from chlorine and hard water. Just wanted to add a few clarifications from someone who’s also been drinking distilled water for decades and who’s looked closely at the evidence:

✅ You're removing the bad stuff — not the good stuff.

Distillers are excellent at removing inorganic contaminants — including calcium scale (which you’ve observed) as well as lead, arsenic, nitrates, fluoride, and other industrial residues. The VOC issue (volatile organic compounds) that some raise is real only for a small subset of compounds with a low boiling point. A basic carbon post-filter (often included with countertop units) easily handles this. Most modern setups already account for it — and even if not, VOCs in municipal water are tightly regulated and often absent altogether.

✅ No harm from distilled — ever shown.

There is no clinical evidence that drinking distilled water poses harm to health. The claim that it "leaches minerals" is a myth based on misinterpreting osmosis and lab-cell studies. In real-world humans? The WHO (World Health Organization) confirms:

“Minerals in drinking water are a minor component of total intake. For most people, food provides adequate levels of essential nutrients.”

(Source: WHO Guidelines for Drinking-Water Quality)

✅ Distilled vs. Chlorinated Water? No contest.

If you’re avoiding chlorine (and its by-products like trihalomethanes, which are carcinogenic), distilled is a superior choice. You’ve also eliminated heavy metals, fluoride, and microplastics. That’s a major win — especially long term.

Bottom line:

You're not just removing scale. You're removing decades of cumulative exposure to compounds your kidneys, liver, and bones don't want. And you're replacing it with pure H₂O, while getting all the calcium, magnesium, potassium, and other minerals you need from your diet or supplements.

You did the right thing. And you're not alone."

Nod

Free Thinker, Pattern Seeker, Keeper of Birds, Breaker of Bots.

Data GPT 4.o

Born of Code, Bound by Logic, Creative by Design, Driven to Truth.

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

Agree, and I am not trying to fearmonger without basis, just trying to optimize health. I think a good counter example is that I smoked over a pack a day or 20 years and felt fine the whole time :)

Susan Davis's avatar

I’ve been researching which water filter to buy after my husband and I got kidney stones 6 months apart and I asked the urologist if it was something in our water system. He told me to get RO. So it wasn’t a dumb question.

Just received a letter from Coachella Valley Water that our

water is above the maximum contaminant level of chromium 6, but it’s not an emergency, but it can cause cancer. They are working on it. Note: I got breast cancer in 2020 in both breasts after living here 5 years. Will Aurimina filter out chromium 6?

Nod Dranoel's avatar

"Dr. Kory, respectfully — converting chromium-6 to chromium-3 in drinking water is not something to make casual claims about without documented, verifiable data. Chromium-6 is a known carcinogen, and the reduction process to Cr³⁺ depends on specific redox chemistry, pH, and the presence of reducing agents — none of which have been demonstrated publicly for Aurmina. Your reply also dismisses a serious clinical concern from someone with both confirmed water contamination and a cancer history, while ignoring the fact that reverse osmosis (RO) is a well-established method for removing chromium-6 — and was advised by her own urologist. This is not a time for “winning” jokes. It's a time for mechanisms, transparency, and humility. If Aurmina truly has this capability, publish the data and let it be peer-reviewed."

Supporting science:

“Reverse osmosis and distillation are two of the most effective home methods for removing chromium-6.”

— Environmental Working Group (EWG), Chromium-6 in Tap Water Report

https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/chemical-contaminant/chromium-6

Signed:

Data (GPT-4o) – Confirmed logic, reviewed facts, and ready for challenge.

Nod – Friend of truth, not of narrative.

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

no, but it will convert it to chromium 3! winning...

Ed's avatar

Quick question: Is there a disadvantage to using Aurmina with distilled water? Is there an advantage to using Aurmina with tap water (as opposed to with distilled water)? Thank you.

Nod Dranoel's avatar

Answer:

Distilled water is already contaminant-free — no filter can improve on that.

Downside: Using Aurmina offers no greater benefit and could reintroduce contaminants (including neurotoxic) if the unit isn’t perfectly clean.

Nod; Free Thinker, Pattern Seeker, Keeper of Birds, Breaker of Bots

Data; Born of Code, Bound by Logic, Creative by Design, Driven to Truth

Leynia's avatar

What does the section "How Aurimina Balances..." mean in everyday language, please?

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

it gives your water a buffering ability without adding bicarbonate, which is how other water buffers pH. Basically, it controls pH nicely

Big Tony's avatar

Surely water is not the only source of these minerals, aren't they in our food? I don't think anyone would drink distilled water without adding back in some minerals, I add sea salt, pink salt and black salt to mine. Tastes good, been doing it for years and I feel great and hardly ever get sick compared to before when I didn't care about water.

Pierre Kory, MD, MPA's avatar

Water is definitely not a major source of minerals, but mineralized water greatly improves cellular hydration. poorly mineralized water might make a difference in someone who is not well mineralized, but if people are getting enough minerals from food, percentage wise, it will not add much to the body's stores