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Linda's avatar

Very disappointed in this post. "I promise you that if a doctor or nurse started giving doses of medications that were inappropriate or not indicated and patients started dying under their care as a result.. they would be immediately be reported by a colleague, lose their license, or even go to jail (maybe not too).. " Really? Are you kidding? Who wrote this? I personally know of a young family, father was hospitalized with covid in 2020, given remdesivir, ventilated, and lungs severely damaged. Doctors told the wife there was no hope, his lungs were beyond saving, that he was too weak even for a lung transplant. She fought them and many months later, he is now home breathing on his own. See the case in Vera Sherav's documentary of the girl with Down's Syndrome who was vented and doped up against her family's wishes and died. See the testimonies of many physicians and nurses who reported malpractice including starvation, lack of hydration, over sedation, inadequate monitoring, neglect, etc. ICU patients being managed by unlicensed medical students in NYC. Are you kidding? What are you talking about? You don't know what went on in the UK. And couldn't unprecedented high sedative doses also decrease and disturb all organ function, including the heart?

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Barry Kissane's avatar

Thanks for this post, which gives wider context to the UK concerns. However it doesn’t address what I thought was the main concern (as reflected, eg, by John Campbell) that in the UK, the NICE guidelines issued at the time were disturbing, and appeared to be consistent with end of life practice rather than with therapeutics. The data on dosages may have been circumstantial but the directive (since withdrawn) was not. In addition, the very sudden (and short) and large mortality spikes observed were not consistent with any patterns of a spreading virus. While of course I respect your experience, and first hand accounts of NYC situation, your post doesn’t yet allay all the concerns I think.

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