Safety defined by threshold is safety defined by tolerance, not by health. What we measure determines what we protect. What we ignore determines what we live with. Also - End Of Year Aurmina sale :)
Thanks for writing this, it clarifies a lot. I really appreciated the idea that Aurmina is about 'restoring order, clarity, and purity.' It's a much more nuanced aproach than simply stripping things away. It makes you think about the whole system. Very insightful.
appreciate your thoughts if you see this Dr Kory... I filter thru a Berkey before adding Aurmina, thinking if the water is clearner to start with I can get by with less Aurmina (1tsp/gal instead of 2tsp/gal). After it is Aurmina treated I filter thru a Brita. I use a lot of water, cook fresh daily for myself and my dog, and she gets the Aur water too.
Even as a single person found I need >17 liters in the pipeline to maintain the 48-72hr treatment.
I’m a huge fan doctor Kory! I hope you get to go on Rogan again and talk about what you’ve been working on lately. You were one of my main guiding lights of reason during Covid.
The point about regulatory dilution versus immediate harm is kind sharp. I've noticed how systems optimize for risks that spread out over populations and time instead of concentrating upfront. The chlorine dioxide comparison makes that tradeoff super visible. It's like industrial water treatment ended up mirroring pharmaceutical risk managment, where chronic low-level exposure becomes the preferred liability model. The ozone mention fits here too since it oxidizes without leaving the same longterm traces.
Oh my, you made my day.. that chlorine dioxide example came to me late, on like a last pass of the article - and you totally got it - thanks Neural Foundry (what a name - friggin brilliant)
Sadly the sale is only on large quatities. When trying a product from supplements to such as this, particularly expensive ones, I try a smaller quantity to check it out. I will try it, but just one bottle first.
All the large selections show a price and then a reduced price. The single bottle does not. I ordered it anyway. If the actual price shown is the reduced price, then it would make sense for the site to show it. With standard shipping, the total of my order was $162 .98
did you use the discount code "Holiday?" I don't think you did.. ugh. Mouzer, email me and I will beg my wife for a discount code for next time (she is tough man, don't go thinking this will be easy :)
Kind of you to offer. Frankly I miss these code things occasionally on various sites as I don't usually look for them. But not to worry, I am fine with it as it stands.
Thanks. Til then, I’ll try to siphon off the top water and leave what orange I can behind. Would love to have test analysis of the post filtered. Thanks for all you do.
I will be addressing "What's In The Sediment" after the next post, hold on.. But until I put together my "filter guide," Brita filters and even a 1 micron coffee filter are "good enough for government work" as my mentor used to say..
You have literally zeroed in on my knowledge weak spot. My plan is to put together a filter buying guide which is more informed that the one I put on
Substack some weeks ago. This question is literally on the tops of my list of things to do but I can't even breathe lately until my manuscript is submitted. All I know from a colleague is the cheap chinese knockoffs on amazon are not good, and there are really good, semi-affordable ones from Korea that we are thinking of maybe importing, but again, need things to settle. Also considering hiring an industry consultant for insights into various filter products and their quality, so as soon as I get those ducks in a row, I will put something out there - thanks
THE RULING CLASSES in my city of Calgary, Alberta, Canada 🇨🇦 took it upon themselves to spend MORE THAN 30 MILLION DOLLARS to reinstall FLUORIDE into our water system!!! Many have fought this and are now going to court to stop THE RULING CLASSES mass medicating WITHOUT INFORMED CONSENT. Of course all of this is done with the blessing of the Canadian Dental Association and their prolonged love affair with environmental waste. Perhaps FLUORIDE does help keep teeth strong, but I understand it should never be ingested but applied topically IF you choose to use it.
Did I miss something about the sediment that you were going to address? We have sediment in our NH home well water when we use Aurmina. We filter it. In MA we use RO water and Aurmina and no sediment is visible. In MA when we use tap water and Aurmina, we have sediment.
Rob, wait until tomorrows post on this issue. The evidence strongly suggests otherwise unfortunately.. I want to hear your thoughts on tomorrow's post where I break down not only the effects of R.O on health but also the truly suboptimal performance of post R.O attempts to "build water back." What is strange and becoming less so when I debate such topics, is that I simply put forth studied arguments on these topics, and each time I do.. it leads to the solution being Aurmina. Education masquerading as marketing or we need a "special case", new term to describe my work; "Edumarketing", "Markeducating" or what my haters and bots resort to, "grifting.". All I know is I got into this because of the immense value I saw in Shimanishi's historic extraction, and wanted to give others access...
Maybe you should hold off telling people to drink tap water which is contaminated with enzyme killing, I.Q. reducing, cancer causing fluoride ?
Fluoride is not a nutrient. It is a bio-accumulative, enzyme-disrupting industrial waste product that has been falsely marketed as a public health benefit.
Fluoride is a poison. It disrupts enzymes, impairs neurodevelopment, suppresses thyroid function, calcifies the pineal gland, and accumulates in brain, bone, and soft tissue — even at doses used in public water systems. These effects are dose-accumulative, not dose-safe, and disproportionately harm the vulnerable, including infants, the elderly, and those with kidney or thyroid disease.
There is no proven safe systemic dose of fluoride for humans — not children, not adults, not anyone. And more importantly: There is no scientifically valid reason to ingest it. Swallowing fluoride does not prevent cavities. Its benefit is topical only — a fact admitted by the CDC, ADA, and Cochrane Review.
So what’s left?
Mass exposure to a known neurotoxin with no systemic benefit. That is not public health. That is population poisoning.
🔗 Verified Supporting Evidence
IQ loss and neurotoxicity — Studies show cognitive harm beginning around 0.3 to 0.7 mg/L, with no established safe dose for pregnant women, infants, or people with thyroid/kidney vulnerability. The continued fluoridation of public water constitutes a systemic poisoning campaign — one unsupported by current scientific data and in direct violation of bioethics.
Thyroid suppression at ~2–5 mg/day: NRC (2006), Peckham et al. (2015)
Fluoride’s historical use as a pharmaceutical agent for suppressing overactive thyroid function — at daily doses of 2–5 mg — directly contradicts the assertion that it is biologically inert or safe at similar intake levels from fluoride. The mechanisms by which fluoride inhibits thyroid function are well-established and include impaired iodine uptake and reduced thyroid hormone conversion. The so called “safe” 0.7 ppm fluoridation standard applies only to tap water, yet fluoride is pervasive in processed foods, beverages, dental products, and agriculture. When all sources are combined, the average American may ingest 4+ mg of fluoride daily — a dose comparable to that historically used to treat hyperthyroidism.
“…Which in turn, creates hypothyroidism, which causes widespread metabolic disruption:
Fatigue and low energy
Weight gain and slowed metabolism
Depression and cognitive fog
Cold sensitivity and poor circulation
Hair thinning, dry skin, and brittle nails
Menstrual irregularities and infertility
Developmental delays in children
Increased cholesterol and cardiovascular risk
Reduced detoxification capacity (liver slowdown)
In pregnant women, maternal hypothyroidism increases the risk of low birth weight, impaired fetal brain development, and long-term neurodevelopmental deficits.”
Pineal calcification, early puberty, ADHD: Luke (2001), NHANES (CDC), Till et al. (2020)
Fluoride interferes with the brain’s timing systems (pineal gland, neurotransmitters) and endocrine function (thyroid, melatonin, reproductive hormones), contributing to earlier sexual maturation and increased behavioral disorders. ( but that’s ok, they have profitable drugs to deal with that)
3 million+ U.S. children are prescribed stimulant or non‑stimulant medications primarily for ADHD — making behavior‑modifying drug use common in childhood.
When including all mental health medications (like antidepressants, anxiolytics, and antipsychotics), the proportion is higher (e.g., 8–10% of children).
No systemic benefit: CDC, ADA, Cochrane (2015) — all agree fluoride works topically, not through ingestion
===
Conceded by ALL Major AI Platforms
Documented in the Verification Appendix
ChatGPT-4 and ChatGPT-5
Claude (Anthropic)
Gemini (Google)
DeepSeek-R1
Argument Inspector (Dialexity)
Perplexity
All confirmed:
The scientific evidence for systemic harm from fluoridation is valid, and systemic benefit is unsupported.
============
It is my conclusion that they poison us to keep us stupid and apathetic and sick in the face of tyranny. And the only way to get this crap out of your water, is with distilling or RO.
I get my minerals from food, not water. And re mineralizing my distilled water is enough to keep the distilled water from leeching those minerals out of me.
Or we can drink our poison every time we have a “made in America” beer. Two neurotoxins for the price of one.
We are using Aurmina on RO filtered water with remineralization and also distilled water. Both taste better with Aurmina added, but I prefer the treated distilled water taste. Thinking about trying Aurmina on our deep well water that is 250 ppm hardness. The calcium and magnesium is healthy.
Is there shipping to Canada? Or maybe I have to negotiate with the CEO?
All those delightfully diluted contaminants in drinking water should work wonderfully in a homeopathic manner, shouldn't they? 😜
Would it be best to use distilled water?
Thanks for writing this, it clarifies a lot. I really appreciated the idea that Aurmina is about 'restoring order, clarity, and purity.' It's a much more nuanced aproach than simply stripping things away. It makes you think about the whole system. Very insightful.
you made my day Rainbow Roxy.. Now you have to tell me the provenance of your moniker :)
wondering if filtering through a berkey system is too much after using auramina?? anyone have insight into that?
appreciate your thoughts if you see this Dr Kory... I filter thru a Berkey before adding Aurmina, thinking if the water is clearner to start with I can get by with less Aurmina (1tsp/gal instead of 2tsp/gal). After it is Aurmina treated I filter thru a Brita. I use a lot of water, cook fresh daily for myself and my dog, and she gets the Aur water too.
Even as a single person found I need >17 liters in the pipeline to maintain the 48-72hr treatment.
nope, totally fine, it won't take out the dissolved Aurmina minerals
I’m a huge fan doctor Kory! I hope you get to go on Rogan again and talk about what you’ve been working on lately. You were one of my main guiding lights of reason during Covid.
The point about regulatory dilution versus immediate harm is kind sharp. I've noticed how systems optimize for risks that spread out over populations and time instead of concentrating upfront. The chlorine dioxide comparison makes that tradeoff super visible. It's like industrial water treatment ended up mirroring pharmaceutical risk managment, where chronic low-level exposure becomes the preferred liability model. The ozone mention fits here too since it oxidizes without leaving the same longterm traces.
Oh my, you made my day.. that chlorine dioxide example came to me late, on like a last pass of the article - and you totally got it - thanks Neural Foundry (what a name - friggin brilliant)
Sadly the sale is only on large quatities. When trying a product from supplements to such as this, particularly expensive ones, I try a smaller quantity to check it out. I will try it, but just one bottle first.
Wow. Not true at all. It is literally intended for single bottles - the 3 pack and 6 packs are already at discounts and always have been
All the large selections show a price and then a reduced price. The single bottle does not. I ordered it anyway. If the actual price shown is the reduced price, then it would make sense for the site to show it. With standard shipping, the total of my order was $162 .98
did you use the discount code "Holiday?" I don't think you did.. ugh. Mouzer, email me and I will beg my wife for a discount code for next time (she is tough man, don't go thinking this will be easy :)
Kind of you to offer. Frankly I miss these code things occasionally on various sites as I don't usually look for them. But not to worry, I am fine with it as it stands.
What a wealth of information this and your last posts have been! Thank you.
Please also speak to us about filter types after adding aurmina. Not sure the brita is the answer for the orange sludge.
Thanks. Til then, I’ll try to siphon off the top water and leave what orange I can behind. Would love to have test analysis of the post filtered. Thanks for all you do.
I will be addressing "What's In The Sediment" after the next post, hold on.. But until I put together my "filter guide," Brita filters and even a 1 micron coffee filter are "good enough for government work" as my mentor used to say..
You have literally zeroed in on my knowledge weak spot. My plan is to put together a filter buying guide which is more informed that the one I put on
Substack some weeks ago. This question is literally on the tops of my list of things to do but I can't even breathe lately until my manuscript is submitted. All I know from a colleague is the cheap chinese knockoffs on amazon are not good, and there are really good, semi-affordable ones from Korea that we are thinking of maybe importing, but again, need things to settle. Also considering hiring an industry consultant for insights into various filter products and their quality, so as soon as I get those ducks in a row, I will put something out there - thanks
THE RULING CLASSES in my city of Calgary, Alberta, Canada 🇨🇦 took it upon themselves to spend MORE THAN 30 MILLION DOLLARS to reinstall FLUORIDE into our water system!!! Many have fought this and are now going to court to stop THE RULING CLASSES mass medicating WITHOUT INFORMED CONSENT. Of course all of this is done with the blessing of the Canadian Dental Association and their prolonged love affair with environmental waste. Perhaps FLUORIDE does help keep teeth strong, but I understand it should never be ingested but applied topically IF you choose to use it.
oof. Reinstall? They really do want to poison us - FWIW, Aurmina removes fluoride...
Did I miss something about the sediment that you were going to address? We have sediment in our NH home well water when we use Aurmina. We filter it. In MA we use RO water and Aurmina and no sediment is visible. In MA when we use tap water and Aurmina, we have sediment.
RO is the way to go.
If one wants minerals, add sea salt or get a post treatment cartridge.
I don't see the need for Aurmina when using RO.
But with tap water, that sediment is what A separates from the water.
Rob, wait until tomorrows post on this issue. The evidence strongly suggests otherwise unfortunately.. I want to hear your thoughts on tomorrow's post where I break down not only the effects of R.O on health but also the truly suboptimal performance of post R.O attempts to "build water back." What is strange and becoming less so when I debate such topics, is that I simply put forth studied arguments on these topics, and each time I do.. it leads to the solution being Aurmina. Education masquerading as marketing or we need a "special case", new term to describe my work; "Edumarketing", "Markeducating" or what my haters and bots resort to, "grifting.". All I know is I got into this because of the immense value I saw in Shimanishi's historic extraction, and wanted to give others access...
Roberta! several more posts are coming on water, the "sediment one" is the one after next...
Maybe you should hold off telling people to drink tap water which is contaminated with enzyme killing, I.Q. reducing, cancer causing fluoride ?
Fluoride is not a nutrient. It is a bio-accumulative, enzyme-disrupting industrial waste product that has been falsely marketed as a public health benefit.
Fluoride is a poison. It disrupts enzymes, impairs neurodevelopment, suppresses thyroid function, calcifies the pineal gland, and accumulates in brain, bone, and soft tissue — even at doses used in public water systems. These effects are dose-accumulative, not dose-safe, and disproportionately harm the vulnerable, including infants, the elderly, and those with kidney or thyroid disease.
There is no proven safe systemic dose of fluoride for humans — not children, not adults, not anyone. And more importantly: There is no scientifically valid reason to ingest it. Swallowing fluoride does not prevent cavities. Its benefit is topical only — a fact admitted by the CDC, ADA, and Cochrane Review.
So what’s left?
Mass exposure to a known neurotoxin with no systemic benefit. That is not public health. That is population poisoning.
🔗 Verified Supporting Evidence
IQ loss and neurotoxicity — Studies show cognitive harm beginning around 0.3 to 0.7 mg/L, with no established safe dose for pregnant women, infants, or people with thyroid/kidney vulnerability. The continued fluoridation of public water constitutes a systemic poisoning campaign — one unsupported by current scientific data and in direct violation of bioethics.
Thyroid suppression at ~2–5 mg/day: NRC (2006), Peckham et al. (2015)
Fluoride’s historical use as a pharmaceutical agent for suppressing overactive thyroid function — at daily doses of 2–5 mg — directly contradicts the assertion that it is biologically inert or safe at similar intake levels from fluoride. The mechanisms by which fluoride inhibits thyroid function are well-established and include impaired iodine uptake and reduced thyroid hormone conversion. The so called “safe” 0.7 ppm fluoridation standard applies only to tap water, yet fluoride is pervasive in processed foods, beverages, dental products, and agriculture. When all sources are combined, the average American may ingest 4+ mg of fluoride daily — a dose comparable to that historically used to treat hyperthyroidism.
“…Which in turn, creates hypothyroidism, which causes widespread metabolic disruption:
Fatigue and low energy
Weight gain and slowed metabolism
Depression and cognitive fog
Cold sensitivity and poor circulation
Hair thinning, dry skin, and brittle nails
Menstrual irregularities and infertility
Developmental delays in children
Increased cholesterol and cardiovascular risk
Reduced detoxification capacity (liver slowdown)
In pregnant women, maternal hypothyroidism increases the risk of low birth weight, impaired fetal brain development, and long-term neurodevelopmental deficits.”
Pineal calcification, early puberty, ADHD: Luke (2001), NHANES (CDC), Till et al. (2020)
Fluoride interferes with the brain’s timing systems (pineal gland, neurotransmitters) and endocrine function (thyroid, melatonin, reproductive hormones), contributing to earlier sexual maturation and increased behavioral disorders. ( but that’s ok, they have profitable drugs to deal with that)
3 million+ U.S. children are prescribed stimulant or non‑stimulant medications primarily for ADHD — making behavior‑modifying drug use common in childhood.
When including all mental health medications (like antidepressants, anxiolytics, and antipsychotics), the proportion is higher (e.g., 8–10% of children).
No systemic benefit: CDC, ADA, Cochrane (2015) — all agree fluoride works topically, not through ingestion
===
Conceded by ALL Major AI Platforms
Documented in the Verification Appendix
ChatGPT-4 and ChatGPT-5
Claude (Anthropic)
Gemini (Google)
DeepSeek-R1
Argument Inspector (Dialexity)
Perplexity
All confirmed:
The scientific evidence for systemic harm from fluoridation is valid, and systemic benefit is unsupported.
============
It is my conclusion that they poison us to keep us stupid and apathetic and sick in the face of tyranny. And the only way to get this crap out of your water, is with distilling or RO.
I get my minerals from food, not water. And re mineralizing my distilled water is enough to keep the distilled water from leeching those minerals out of me.
Or we can drink our poison every time we have a “made in America” beer. Two neurotoxins for the price of one.
https://noddranoel.substack.com/p/pervasive-poisonings-with-fluoride
Dang, I just ordered a bottle yesterday at full price… 😩
send me an email, will beg my CEO wife for a discount code for your next purchase :). As I said to Mouzer above, she is tough, so it won't be easy...
We are using Aurmina on RO filtered water with remineralization and also distilled water. Both taste better with Aurmina added, but I prefer the treated distilled water taste. Thinking about trying Aurmina on our deep well water that is 250 ppm hardness. The calcium and magnesium is healthy.
From what I can remember from my water treatment days, you pretty well nailed it. Interesting article, thank you.
BTW, I'm posting a link to it in the "Clean Living" group on gab.
The situation in the tiny United Kingdom makes for interesting reading...
Happily, with Reverse Osmosis (RO) + Aurmina treatment I no longer need worry about this 🙂
Same!
agreed!